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Did I Buy a Lemon?

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016+)' started by SoftwareRoader, Jul 20, 2021.

  1. Jul 20, 2021 at 6:20 PM
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    SoftwareRoader

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    This is a re-post from when I originally asked about the issue I was having. Some of the replies people explained they had been having this issue as well, but the dealer could not find anything wrong.

    I am hoping to get more information, as I am thinking about contacting my lawyer and beginning to have it considered a lemon. I love this truck, but I spent a lot of money on something brand new and it should work 100% properly.

    I am hoping one of you know what this issue is and what a possible fix could be, so that I can keep the truck and not go through the extensive hassle of trying to get it sorted with the dealer and Toyota.

    This is my first brand new vehicle, and first Tacoma so I am pretty bummed about it.

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    Hello, I recently (2 weeks ago) bought a 2021 SR5 Trail Edition.

    I have loved the truck, but I have noticed a whirring/whining noise when I'm around 2k-2.3k RPM and under load (going up a hill, highway merge, etc. ). Also, the downshifts are jerky when slowing down, or letting off the throttle.

    I have read through old posts, but could not find a definite answer. Is this something that is common? Is there a TSB for this? Is it just my truck breaking in?

    I've never owned a brand new vehicle, so I can't exactly compare.

    Any help is appreciated, as I would prefer to not take to dealer until I have some idea of what the issue/fix is.

    To provide more concise detail:

    Whirring/whining noise. Almost like a grinding sound.

    Happens around 2-2.5k RPM under load.

    Noise coming from in front of driver.

    Truck has about 1k miles

    Extra detail: I have driven plenty of trucks (Silverado, F-150s, Sierra, etc.) I have never heard this noise come from a truck
     
  2. Jul 20, 2021 at 6:22 PM
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    b_r_o

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    Drive another Tacoma with the same year/ drive train and see if you hear it
     
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  3. Jul 20, 2021 at 6:22 PM
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  4. Jul 20, 2021 at 6:23 PM
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    My truck doesnt have that sound.... but things sound different to other people. if its easily replicated i would take it to the dealership and have a tech do a ride along and see if they might hear it also
     
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  5. Jul 20, 2021 at 6:23 PM
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    I test drove a bunch of Tacoma's before purchasing this one (all V6 AT) None of them made the noise
     
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  6. Jul 20, 2021 at 6:27 PM
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    Have you taken it to a dealer?

    A lemon is defined as a problem that cant be fixed after 3 tries or a certain amount of days in the shop.
     
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  7. Jul 20, 2021 at 6:29 PM
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    I have not taken it to the dealer, as the one around me has a terrible record of diagnosing issues.

    I also don't have another vehicle, so I'm not trying to leave my truck with the dealer for a week.

    I was hoping someone had this issue, and was able to get it resolved
     
  8. Jul 20, 2021 at 6:29 PM
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    Try a different dealership
     
  9. Jul 20, 2021 at 6:30 PM
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    Every state has different lemon laws. Many require the dealer to identify a defect. Just because the truck makes a noise doesn’t mean there is a defect necessarily.
    If you can easily replicate the noise, have a service rep ride with you and then ride in another truck on the lot (if there is one these days). See if they notice the noise. If they don’t, visit another dealer and repeat. If both dealers don’t notice the noise, ask them to kindly note the vehicle record of your complaint in the event anything breaks in the future. Alternatively, you could send a sample of front diff oil, trans fluid and xfercase fluid to Blackstone and see if there are elevated levels of metal in any of them. I know this is less than ideal but spending $60 now to save thousands later may be worth it.
     
  10. Jul 20, 2021 at 6:30 PM
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    Then you dont have a lemon. Take it to the dealer, request a loaner, and then report back when they fix it.
     
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  11. Jul 20, 2021 at 6:31 PM
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    Is it yellow? Do your eyes squint / salivary glands hurt when u taste it? If it gets in your eye, does it hurt?
     
  12. Jul 20, 2021 at 6:32 PM
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    They don't have any loaners due to the shortage
     
  13. Jul 20, 2021 at 6:32 PM
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    I appreciate you spending your time and effort to post that reply
     
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    You have 2 options...

    Live with the sound, or take it to the dealer.

    We can suggest things, but no dealership is going to take the suggestions of a bunch of idiots on a web forum. They will have their own techs diagnose the issue and repair what needs to be repaired.
     
  15. Jul 20, 2021 at 6:37 PM
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    You've somehow missed the very first step..
     
  16. Jul 20, 2021 at 6:38 PM
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    Thank you for the reply!

    My thought is that the dealer will say that they do not notice anything and that they can't pinpoint an issue. Then I've wasted time, been without my truck, and had random people drive it around for absolutely nothing.

    I am more inclined to get a sample of the front diff oil and have it tested, so that I have some actual evidence.

    I just cannot believe I'm having issues with my brand new truck when my 2007 Highlander never had anything wrong with it
     
  17. Jul 20, 2021 at 6:40 PM
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    You're welcome! Not everything can be learned online. Sometimes u gotta go out there and make shit happen. Best of luck of luck buddy!
     
  18. Jul 20, 2021 at 6:40 PM
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    Happens at every speed? In any gear? RPM is the only constant that causes the noise?
     
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    Well I figured someone else had this issue and was able to get it resolved. Ive seen a lot of reported issues on the transmission of the 3rd gen
     
  20. Jul 20, 2021 at 6:42 PM
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    Yes RPM and load is the only thing constant. Anywhere from 2k - 2.5k under load and it will make the noise
     

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