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Difference between Icon standard coil overs and extended travel coilovers?

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by 375taco, May 22, 2010.

  1. May 22, 2010 at 8:55 PM
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    375taco

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    I am going to be buying Icon coilovers and I was wondering what the difference was between the standard coilovers and extended travel coilovers? Also is the resi coilovers worth the price? I am going to set the coilovers at 3" and i was wondering what the ride difference would be..... which better at 3"? thanks brothers!
     
  2. May 22, 2010 at 8:56 PM
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    chris4x4

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    One has more travel and is longer. You need to use a Uniball UCA with the extended travel ones.
     
  3. May 25, 2010 at 9:50 AM
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    Hey Chris, would a LR or Camburg ball joint UCA work with the extended travel ones as well?
     
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    The extended travel have just a little more travel to make the most of use with aftermarket arms. The Resi-Coilovers have more oil capacity to keep the oil cooler longer. Shocks fade when the oil over heats.
     
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    how do tell the difference between the 2? different part numbers? longer eye to eye?
     
  6. Jul 11, 2010 at 6:06 PM
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    So I am looking at Icon Vehicle Dynamics website. They have, for +05 Tacoma's, a regular travel coilover setup (0-3") or the extended travel coilovers (0-3.5").

    With the suspensions we have going above 3" would limit your down travel to about .5", thinking stock 8" articulation wise. So my question is what features about the extended coilovers allow you to run these without "harming" the suspension components from this kind of travel?

    I know Chris and Dan mentioned you need to run uniball UCA's to get the benefit from these extended travel coilovers and I was thinking is there any way to take a current coilover, in my case eibach springs and the collar and 5100's, and make them run similarly to a extended travel coilover system?
     
  7. Jul 11, 2010 at 6:19 PM
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    You would have to make the shock longer. Cant do that with the 5100's
     
  8. Jul 11, 2010 at 6:20 PM
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    so what are my options for going with a longer shock to fit with the eibach springs and collars?

    also is the icon extended coilover similar to the camburg coilovers they sell with the uniballs to make 10.5" of travel? and similar i mean in design and lengths of shocks or is it just in the setup?
     
  9. Jul 11, 2010 at 6:22 PM
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    I never compared them back to back
     
  10. Jul 11, 2010 at 6:23 PM
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    are there any other shocks i can look into to fit in the eibach springs and collar i have now?
     
  11. Jul 11, 2010 at 6:42 PM
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    Icon. Maybe Fox, and King.
     
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    do you know how i go about and see if it fits other than asking the company? I have been looking at dsms and the fox or king shocks do not look as if they would be compatable with the parts i currently have, or at least with my stock top plate. thats the first thing i notice on for instance the icon vs what i got. they are threaded from the top and the setup is just way different....maybe i will just save up and sell what i got and just buy the correct setup from the get go!
     
  13. Aug 12, 2010 at 8:35 AM
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    The ICON's are capable of 10.5" but your not going to get that amount of travel out of them. Even with aftermarket uca's the max is about 9.5" due to the limitations within the suspension.

    I measured to see what kind of travel I achieved with ICON extended coilovers and light racing uca's. 5.75" up travel and 3.25" downtravel. Im sure there might be a slight variation in the amount of travel but just a quick runthrough resulted in about 9 inches of travel.
     
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    I thought Light Racing were standard ball joint and not uniball and thus did not give extended travel?
     
  15. Aug 12, 2010 at 5:30 PM
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    Nope.........

     
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    For comparison sake how many degrees do arms like Total Chaos and Built Right have?
     
  17. Aug 13, 2010 at 9:37 AM
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    I can't find any thing other then the TC's can correct up to 3 degrees of caster and increase wheel travel.
     
  18. Sep 7, 2010 at 11:09 AM
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    are the icon extended travel coilovers longer than my current camburg coilovers that they claim 10.5 of travel?

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  19. Sep 7, 2010 at 11:23 AM
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    wow! so the limitation for more travel even with ext coilvers is the need for longer A- arms? crazy i guess ill just stick with the shocks i have and try to get a resi on them in stead of trying to get the icons
     
  20. Sep 7, 2010 at 11:26 AM
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    They need to have more articulation in the ball joint than the stock ones. They dont need to be longer. The TC's, Camburg, and Light Racing seem fine to be used with them.
     
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