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Differential fluid change.

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by EMT760-, Sep 3, 2017.

  1. Sep 3, 2017 at 8:45 PM
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    EMT760-

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    It is my understanding that the 75W90 is a acceptable replacement for the factory 75W85? It seems the Redline fluid is around $ 60.00 for a gallon or 16.00 for a quart. Whereas Mobil 1 75W90 is 12-13.

    I'm guessing most guys would recommend Redline or Mobil 1.

    I'd be changing the fluid out at 500 miles, so I'm doing it very early on to help flush out metal contaminates.

    Not sure if I should I just stick to the 75W85 or just get cheaper 75W90 at the cost of MPG?
     
  2. Sep 4, 2017 at 12:27 AM
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    Jessrin

    Jessrin Oh, okay...

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    I wouldn't worry about that. That little magnet on the drain plug will catch that. I believe your first change is at 30,000. I did my front diff yesterday only because I changed my drivers side needle bearing. I used Amsoil 75-90 severe gear. I'm at 22,000 miles.
     
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  3. Sep 4, 2017 at 6:03 AM
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    splitbolt

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    As problematic as the rear differentials have been, I would stick with 75w85; at least until the warranty is expired.
     
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  4. Sep 4, 2017 at 7:53 AM
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    Jessrin Oh, okay...

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    How would they know if it's 75-90 or 75-85?
     
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    rnish

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    I used Mobil 1. At a little over $6 a quart on sale at Pep Boys it was a no brainer.
     
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    You want the thickest you can get away with not, thinnest. I wouldn't put 75w85 in unless I lived in the arctic circle.

    You don't really need crazy expensive fluid in these trucks, the diff's don't fail.

    It's also really early for a flush, you paid for the fluid thats in the truck, use it before dumping out perfectly good fluid.
     
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    75-90. All the cool kids are doing it! BTW If you did have diff problems there is no way the dealer will know what oil is in there unless you tell them. Even then they would have to proove that caused an issue......It wont
     
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    Wt isn't quite as critical, 75/90 is just hunky dory.

    But you are way early. The drain plug, as @Jessrin suggests, will pick up any of the tiny shavings, which is all there will be.

    Unless you're pounding on it at the drag strip on a regular basis, there's no reason to change it early.

    And while most of the boutique lubricants are good stuff, they are not worthy of the $ delta above quality OTC products. Especially in mass produced vehicles.
     
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    a check may be in order here regardless.

    i checked my diff at 11k on a truck with zero issues of any sort. turned out i was 0.4l low in the diff. i went ahead and filled with fresh.
     
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    M1 for me at about 10k miles, really wasn't as dirty as I thought it'd be. But peace of mind, and may have stopped the very minor seepage I had. Also MPGs went up not down.
     
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    Agree....Mine was low also, as was the front diff...just fill them up and good to go..
     
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    75w-90 is fine (close enough) and I wouldn't worry about warranty at that weight - regardless of the existing issues with some of these diffs. A large percentage of Toyota dealers use 75w-90 because it's much cheaper than the 75w-85 as you noted, even in bulk; as a matter of fact they use it for the transfer cases too, which probably isn't recommended. My point is, they themselves put it in everything - if you don't tell them, they wouldn't know the difference.

    That said, 500 miles may be way too early, even if all it's for is to flush contaminates. You're going to have some crud in there for sure, but give it a few thousand miles to actually finish the break-in process. Otherwise you're just going to fill the new fluid with crud relatively quickly as well. Stick to the severe service interval for your diff fluids and driveline lubrication (not necessarily engine oil). The recommended regular intervals that Toyota provided seem to be way too long.

    If you're interested, you can find some light reading here: 3rd Gen Differential and Manual Transmission (6MT) Fluid Change.

    OA
     
  14. Sep 4, 2017 at 2:18 PM
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    I did a swap with amsoil severe gear 75w90 at 5,000 miles. The fluid that came out looked nearly new....which it was lol. I'd wait a bit longer, and make sure yours doesn't whine before you change the fluid. If it does, I'd have Toyota remedy that issue first because they might try to deny you if there is a different fluid in there than the factory fill. And yes they might send oil out for an analysis before fulfilling a warranty claim.
     
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  15. Sep 4, 2017 at 10:03 PM
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    i was told during the diff recall torquing of the bolts, i was 5qt low....15k on truck at that time
     
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    LOL. I hope that it was a joke.
     
  17. Sep 4, 2017 at 10:28 PM
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    ouch...late night...Yes...I was told .5qt low....missed the decimal point.....
     
  18. Sep 4, 2017 at 10:32 PM
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    Oh gotcha! That sounds about right. I think mine might've been a tad low too when I changed it.
     
  19. Sep 4, 2017 at 10:34 PM
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    :)
     
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    i changed my front and rear diff's to Amsoil 75w90 at 1000 miles. Front was pretty much clean as expected since it doesnt turn unless in 4wd(as I understand it). The rear was nasty, glad I changed it.

    Diff's should be fully broken in by 500-1000 miles. A few heat cycles and they are good.
     

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