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DRL Failures, Locker Indicator Flashing, and Chasing Electrical Gremlins

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by therealprotaco, Dec 11, 2019.

  1. Dec 14, 2019 at 7:21 AM
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    BillsSR5

    BillsSR5 Looking out for #1

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    not advice its reality, deal with it
     
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  2. Dec 14, 2019 at 7:21 AM
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    They can still refuse you warranty work, even if you remove all added mods. If you tapped/spliced, or modified any of the factory wiring harness/fuse boxes. Which I'm guessing you did by adding mods. Now with mods removed... Factory harness/fuse boxes are not as they left factory. still modified one way, or another.
     
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  3. Dec 14, 2019 at 7:23 AM
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    Add a fuse was the only addition. Everything else is stock.
     
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  4. Dec 14, 2019 at 7:23 AM
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    44-16 Taco

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    Very articulate response, well thought out. A+
     
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  5. Dec 14, 2019 at 7:26 AM
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    therealprotaco

    therealprotaco [OP] Always Skeptical

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    You just not have read the whole thread before responding.

    Also must not have read the whole thread before responding.
     
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  6. Dec 14, 2019 at 7:27 AM
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    any non TRD aftermarket part that you add to the vehicle is considered a aftermarket part and warranty repairs can be denied solely on that reason depending on the discretion of the Dealership service dept. it cannot be made any clearer than that
     
  7. Dec 14, 2019 at 7:31 AM
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    no but we all get the jist, you installed aftermarket lighting to your truck and walla the DRL's are burning out and you want Toyota to replace them under warranty or diagnose your truck as to why they are burning out, they did diagnose the truck told you it was the non DOT approved aftermarket lights that are causing the problem and you don't want to accept it so you started a cry for me thread cause you F'd up your DRLs by doing dumb shit
     
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  8. Dec 14, 2019 at 7:32 AM
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    therealprotaco [OP] Always Skeptical

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    Except that you are 100% incorrect and are doing nothing here but spreading false information. Your position is wrong, but clear. You’re entitled to your opinion and We certainly get it.
     
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  9. Dec 14, 2019 at 7:32 AM
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    Nice argument councilor.
     
  10. Dec 14, 2019 at 7:33 AM
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    I started reading this last night, just finished .

    Now I cant wait for monday .:muscleflexing: good luck!
     
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  11. Dec 14, 2019 at 7:34 AM
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    if this Dudes a councilor Im Johnny Cochran, [​IMG]
     
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  12. Dec 14, 2019 at 7:40 AM
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    https://www.trdusa.com/warranty.html
     
  13. Dec 14, 2019 at 7:40 AM
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    Dude I was referring to homeboy talking about cutting and splicing wiring.
     
  14. Dec 14, 2019 at 7:42 AM
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    My understanding is that a manufacturer can not deny warranty service due to aftermarket parts if these parts have nothing to do with the problem, in other words if modify the suspension system by adding performance shocks for instance, they can’t deny warranty service on my fuel pump or AC.

    If I modify the lights, they can’t deny me warranty service on my suspension system.

    If I modify my lights with some aftermarket shit and my lights go out, guess what? They can tell me to GFM and I’m going to be dipping into my checking account to fix them.

    Common sense isn’t so common anymore, especially among lawyers. I get that. I’m sure most people probably do.

    WTF happened to personal responsibility?
     
  15. Dec 14, 2019 at 7:43 AM
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    Correct, TRD parts are pre-approved for installation by Toyota. That does not lend any credibility to the rest of your misinformed statement(s). Again, you are entitled to your opinion whether I disagree with it or not.
     
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  16. Dec 14, 2019 at 7:49 AM
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    A lot of lawyers, including myself, have plenty of common sense (although I know plenty who do not, just like non-lawyers).

    In my opinion, as well as the opinion of the dealership, the aftermarket parts have nothing to do with the DRL failure(s). That being said, Toyota is calling the shots.

    That is why I am paying to have the dealership scope the truck with each aftermarket part unplugged one by one. Not only will this be appropriate evidence to counter Toyota’s only current evidence supporting their position if it turns out that the signal noise is still present, but it will also let me know what, if any, aftermarket part is causing the failure so I can remove it prior to repair.

    One more time, I am willing to pay to play. I am paying for the additional diagnostics. If this test (which multiple EE’s have communicated to me is not actually an appropriate test for this issue) lends sufficient credibility to Toyota’s position, I will repair the vehicle myself, at my expense.
     
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    Also the Magnuson Moss act cannot be applied to your case because the manufacturer proved that it was your Modification that is causing the problem with the DRL's burning out and that's case closed your honor, unless you pony up the money to prove otherwise to have it investigated further, seems as if the dealer you went to has had enough of the BS
     
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  18. Dec 14, 2019 at 7:49 AM
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    What is going to be even more hilarious is when OP gets stuck with diagnostic charges after the dealer finds out his truck is fine without all the aftermarket crap.
     
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  19. Dec 14, 2019 at 7:50 AM
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    Did you read the f**king thread? He knows he has a problem and is willing to pay for diagnosis to find it. Then, and only then, will he pursue it as warranty work if it turns out to NOT be one of his mods. Toyota INITIALLY told the dealer not to do any more diagnosis paid for by the customer. They have since reversed themselves.

    And finally, Toyota can't just say "you have mods, we're not doing any warranty work. They have to have reasonable ground to show that the mod is the cause.

    Love it when non-lawyers try to argue the law :duel:
     
  20. Dec 14, 2019 at 7:50 AM
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    Ok, you obviously have no intention of reading the thread, including the fact that I am ponying up for further diagnosis, before continuing to post so I’ll leave you with your opinion.
     

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