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Drop Bracket lifts?

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by Stillfly199, Dec 20, 2009.

  1. Dec 20, 2009 at 10:39 AM
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    Stillfly199

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    Ok, so I am hearing everyone saying that drop bracket lifts are junk. Why is this? I have been looking around and the only thing I can seem to find is that the drop bracket lift doesnt give you any extra ground clearance and you dont get as much wheel travel. With the exception of a couple people it seems everyone loves their drop bracket lifts, RCD and 6". Am I missing something?
     
  2. Dec 20, 2009 at 10:42 AM
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    they are fine to me but 6" is too much lift for my taste I like my 3" looks good porportioned to the size of my tacoma and does really well off and on road.:)
     
  3. Dec 20, 2009 at 10:42 AM
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    I think it just makes your IFS weaker. For example if you off road it puts stress on the DB and it is liable to break. Other than that it looks good!
     
  4. Dec 20, 2009 at 10:48 AM
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    My whole thing is the ground clearance. Ya, they are at 6", but it almost looks like my 3" lift has just as much clearance if not more. For the $ I want as much functionality as I can. Be that clearance or travel or both. Im not just trying to go up. For the $ of a drop bracket kit, you might as well stay stock for a while till you can afford a long travel kit. Just my two cents. Not trying to knock on the peeps with them and like them.
    :crapstorm:
     
  5. Dec 20, 2009 at 11:05 AM
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    Ok, so it makes the IFS weaker. What does it weaken exactly, any ideas?
     
  6. Dec 20, 2009 at 11:06 AM
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    With a 6'' lift you can put a bigger tire, and that's where you get the best ground clearance.

    to the OP, I wouldn't say they are junk, but they don't flex very well, and you have to cut out your front crossmember, which makes going back to stock a bit tricky. it's also pretty expensive, my lift was $400, which is bilstein 5100's up front, wheelers add a leaf and bilstein 5100's in the rear. I am quite happy with it, although a bit more lift would be good, but puts strain on the cv's
     
  7. Dec 20, 2009 at 11:38 AM
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    I know about the cutting, I was just curious because everytime someone wants to put a 6" lift they get flamed for it because everyone says DB lifts are junk, so I was just looking for an answer to it. Im just tryin to get a little more educated, but I guess I wont really know unless I had a DB lift.
     
  8. Dec 20, 2009 at 11:42 AM
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    Not sure sorry. It just what i've heard from people, not sure if it's true. I would just think it would add more stress to the truck while off roading, i think it would be fine on the street.
     
  9. Dec 20, 2009 at 1:26 PM
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    Got ya, I am just curious because I know some guys on here wheel their DB lifts pretty hard and I dont think they have had any problems.
     
  10. Dec 20, 2009 at 6:45 PM
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    i have seen it first hand what happens to the brackets when wheeled hard...

    you don't notice it at first until you crawl under and take a closer look...

    with enough stress, the brackets shift and if left unnoticed, the rear bracket can twist just a bit...

    wish i had pics, but you can weld some cross braces between the two brackets for safe measure...

    i have also seen one truck hit an outcropping rock dead center and it dented the front bracket pretty good...

    for daily use and trail runs, you should be fine...

    although can't say the same for your wallet as they are expensive, and once you lift that high, you are looking at a laundry list of upgrades to improve performance of the lift...
     
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  11. Dec 20, 2009 at 7:51 PM
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    So the drop bracket is the piece that is acting as the crossmember? Or at least the peice you cut out of the cross member?
     
  12. Dec 21, 2009 at 9:36 AM
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    Ya, thats what I was referring too, I couldnt really explain it lol. I can see why that piece is so vulnerable, wouldnt a skid plate help a lot against rocks?
     
  14. Dec 21, 2009 at 9:50 AM
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    I am one of those who aren't a huge fan of drop bracket lifts for several reasons.

    1. No added clearance besides that added by tires

    2. Devalues the truck by cutting cross member.

    3. Raised center of gravity

    4. Cost vs. Capability

    5. Looks

    DB lifts are more a mall crawler thing ;)

    It doesn't hurt that i like being different in a town full of drop bracket and body lifts. :rolleyes:

    Ese
     
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    Do lifts void the warranty?
     
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    No. There's a national law that states a dealer cannot void your warranty based on modifications. It will void warranty on parts you change, but by law, if something happens to your frame/engine/electrical system/etc. They can't tell you your entire warranty is void.
     
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    Btw here's the the difference between using a drop bracket lift and not using one, since I literally just notice it's not really all that extreme.

    Fig. 1: RCD Drop bracket kit, take notice of the CV and Tie Rod angles.
    ImageUploadedByTapatalk1420169669.883749.jpg

    Fig. 2: Coilover lift, no drop bracket. Again look at the CV and Tie Rod angles. Not all that much different.
    ImageUploadedByTapatalk1420170251.166164.jpg


    I'm just noticing this now after being told by a shop and a friend that the only way to lift an IFS truck is with a drop bracket kit and that the suspension angles are too harsh without it. Just looking at this I really doubt it's enough to really harm the truck.
     
  18. Jan 1, 2015 at 9:39 PM
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    take a floorjack place in center front cross member raise the truck 2 then 3 inches and look at you angles . it will give u an idea how it will look.
     
  19. Jan 1, 2015 at 9:48 PM
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    Wow old thread.

    I'll make my comment tho...skip the Drop bracket lift...I had one. Pain in the ass to go back to a non drop bracket lift because of the missing crossmember.
     
  20. Jan 1, 2015 at 10:01 PM
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    Drop bracket doesn't make it weaker but makes it more prone to fail, it puts more leverage on the factory parts. Look at it like this you change a tire a 12 breaker bar is easier to pop the lugs off than a 6 inch bar
     
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