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Dual battery setup

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016+)' started by Braves95, Feb 27, 2017.

  1. Feb 27, 2017 at 5:29 PM
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    I was only showing is it the 500 amp u were talking about. The use of the quick disconnect rated at 500amp? I'm looking for some right now.
     
  2. Feb 27, 2017 at 5:30 PM
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    If you use a secondary battery ALWAYS hook the winch to this. ALWAYS run a battery isolator.

    Now lots of people do it different but stop and look at why. An isolator keeps your starting battery and winching battery isolated. So you drain the winch battery and no problem you can still start and therefore charge both batteries back up. By keeping the starting battery separate with the isolator your heaviest load (the winch) doesn't kill everything leaving you more stranded than you already are.

    Usually you go with a deep cycle battery as your secondary i.e. Optima blue top or a yellow top which is good for starting or winching.

    The connector idea is great IF you only use your winch on a receiver hitch. But if it is permanently mounted the wiring should be permanent as well. There is nothing worse than going to hook it up and there is corrosion and you get a bad connection. I had a set of these connectors on my old truck for battery cables. Worked great for a few years and then the corrosion was so bad I had to replace them.
     
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  3. Feb 27, 2017 at 5:30 PM
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    Right. My Blue-SEA ML-ACR also has a force option, although it's off a switch in the interior, and I think the truck needs to be running to use it (not sure).

    Force-connecting the two batteries could be the answer, but again, will depend on the situation and what risks you're willing to take.

    Let's say you're in the river, with the truck off. Connecting the two and winching could result in both getting drained, or could result in saving your ass and leaving enough juice to start the truck when out of the river. Winching purely off the aux will likely fully drain it; if you're not out of the river at that point, then you could re-connect the winch to the main and continue winching. You could again drain it and still be stuck in the water, or you could get out and still have juice left.

    I'd probably want to do the latter option - use & drain the aux battery, see how far that gets me, and make a somewhat educated guess on whether or not I want to risk winching off the main. Winching off both at the same time doesn't give you that safety net of only draining your aux - you're risking draining both.

    Note that I don't have the background to know whether there are any efficiency differences in winching off one battery vs two in parallel, though. That's something also worth considering.
     
  4. Feb 27, 2017 at 5:32 PM
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    The solenoid rating is an indicator, but not really the spec. This document has more accurate specs for Smittybilt winches. Again, keep in mind the spike usage vs. rated usage.

    All in all, if the winch comes with a 500amp solenoid, you're safe to use connectors rated for 500amps.
     
  5. Feb 27, 2017 at 5:35 PM
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    Yeah, there's certainly some logic to that.

    To really cover all bases:
    - deep cycle aux battery
    - properly-rated quick-disconnects setup on both batteries
    - dual-battery system that allows forced connect and forced disconnect of the two batteries
    - keep the truck running whenever possible during winching, and for a bit after
     
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  6. Feb 27, 2017 at 5:36 PM
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    More amp hour and current available in parallel. Most winches are series wound DC motors they are almost a complete magnetic short under load. The inrush current is double is run current usually.

    Best to keep a noco with you if you're going on solo trips. Mines always under the back seat.

    I would hope to never be in the situation where I need to winch with the engine off. Will kill your battery.
     
  7. Feb 27, 2017 at 5:38 PM
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    Don't make me buy even more stuff. I'm already equipped to survive three zombie apocalypses and a nuclear holocaust. Half my neighbours have already told me that if shit hits the fan, they're heading downstairs to my truck. Seriously! (Send me a link/model pls.)
     
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  8. Feb 27, 2017 at 5:39 PM
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    Thing is though shouldn't you be running same batteries with dual set up?
    I know you're not but I hear many articles say you should have both AGM or both lead acid. Have any problems yet? I'd rather not buy two new batteries at the same time
     
  9. Feb 27, 2017 at 5:40 PM
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    I've read the same thing. No problems on this end so far, but use has been very light/minimal. Heading out for a month this coming Sunday, so I'll let you know when I come back :).
     
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  10. Feb 27, 2017 at 5:42 PM
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    I picked up a noco gb40 from crappy tire on sale for $100 few months ago. No problems boosting my 1.9L TDI and diesels suck a lot to boost. Says it's rated up to a 6L gas engine.
    One of the guys I used to tag along with for camping and hunting uses the same one on his 2nd Gen taco. No issues. Highly recommend it brother. And it's got a good light that faces where you're working unlike the gb70.

    And works great for charging phones while camping
     
  11. Feb 27, 2017 at 5:43 PM
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    Gonna get 2 of these.

    Odyssey 35-PC1400 Battery
    • 850 CCA, 950 MCA, 1150 HCA
    • 1400 Cranking Amps for 5 Seconds
    • 130 Minute Reserve Capacity
    • Cycle life @ 77° F 400 at 100% DOD
    • -40° F to 140° F Temperature Range
     
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  12. Feb 27, 2017 at 5:46 PM
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    Gonna get that as well. I love to buy shit.
     
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    Pretty sure that's the same one I was looking at getting. I've heard good things about them. Better than Optima and reasonably priced
     
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    $100 CAD? Good deal. They're that much in USD on Amazon.

    Some interesting discussion here: https://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-...iewpnt?ie=UTF8&ASIN=B015TKUPIC#R36Y9HFI0EPZKV
     
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    Well once I opened up about what I needed this for, the ideas just flowed in. Thanks guys. Big help here. Did any of u @Joe23 or @0210 get the TW coin?
     
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    Nope. See no point to it TBH.
     
  17. Feb 27, 2017 at 5:54 PM
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    I'll send u one for your help here. Thanks again.
     
  18. Feb 27, 2017 at 5:56 PM
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    Thanks, but it's really not necessary. Raffle it off on my behalf ;).
     
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    I'll do that. And thanks again.
     
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    Glad to help.
     
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