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Dual Battery Setups! Let's see them! Multiple Batteries Thread!

Discussion in 'Technical Chat' started by MJonaGS32, Sep 20, 2013.

  1. Jan 19, 2016 at 5:38 PM
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    As of now I'm just using a cheap solar panel on my dash to help battery I'm sure it doesn't do much but can't hurt.image.jpg
    I plan on doing something like this on the roof of topper.......someday
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  2. Jan 19, 2016 at 5:42 PM
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    nagorb Should be a dang perma mod

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    I've thought about something like that, might just have to do it. I don't even get over 35 mph going to work and might get up to 55 once a week.
     
  3. Jan 19, 2016 at 5:43 PM
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  4. Jan 19, 2016 at 6:19 PM
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    I did a 50w panel made by Renogy Solar that feeds into a charge controller to my aux battery. It gets up to 13.2-13.5V, but honestly I don't think it does much in the way of charging my battery. Granted, the way my system was setup technically the panel was charging about 150Ah (both batteries). I read on some RV and off-the-grid sites that you really need 1 watt per amp hour for solar charging on a perfect sunlit, clear day so 100w might be able to handle one 31M in a perfect world. Nate's 100w panel might be enough for one 31M battery, but he has no way of directing the panel toward the sun and if it gets dirty it loses efficiency quickly.
     
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  5. Jan 19, 2016 at 6:30 PM
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    nagorb Should be a dang perma mod

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    Thanks for the info.
     
  6. Jan 19, 2016 at 9:05 PM
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    I believe your #2 is an optional wire. There's another member here that explained it a bit better. I'll look for it. I'll be doing this project myself soon.
     
  7. Jan 19, 2016 at 9:14 PM
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    Thank you! I found it after quite a bit of googling. Page 9 of this thread. It seems the isolation wires 1-3 are optional and mainly for boats where they may have to crank the engines for a while before getting them to start. Im just gong to tape them off. I'm glad I dont have to go searching for a "start key switch to starter solenoid" wire. It sounds like a PITA.

    After more reading, I think my #1 wire is just for power to the switch LEDs and not voltage sensing. The yellow LED wire in the diagram is for LED ground. I am going to try to hook it up to the ML-ACR post that I hook up the Aux battery to and I will report back. I might hook it up thru the aux fuse panel since it needs a fuse. We will see.
     
  8. Jan 19, 2016 at 9:25 PM
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    I don't remember if I posted this on this specific thread but this is the diagram I cam up with for myself with a little editing.
     

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  9. Jan 19, 2016 at 9:33 PM
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    That's helpful, thank you again. Your diagram looks much more like our systems than the one from BS. I ordered the Peak DBI monitor tonight too. Someone had posted about adding a switch so that the LEDs were not on all the time. I did a calculation for a 31M battery (100Ah) and calculated that the monitor could be on for 5000 hours before draining the battery. (100Ah * 1000mA/A) / 20mA draw = 5000 hours. Its probably more like 10000 hours since 1/2 of monitor is hooked up to separate 100Ah batteries. I'm comfortable with that :D
     
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  10. Jan 20, 2016 at 6:15 AM
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    Think about all the OEM cars with factory alarms that have the blinking LED. not worried about it ;)

    here's some test fit pics for anyone curious what will fit behind the driver rear seat. d2831608f13f8c478d5cb097aefb6e17_5ce35c34e4ea42b5d98205c067b99a5450cd3501.jpg
    8390538bd6af8de311370c5ff8cd0aa0_62fb256ce6540134c3c086126e462319f6772101.jpg

    ^ Optima 34/78

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    ^DIEHARD 31M

    Since I have the factory JBL system I'm going to be running dual optima 34/78 in the bed. Ditching the subwoofer and amp to stick the batteries behind the seat is just too much. With it all disconnected I had zero radio....so it's staying till I go full retard with the truck. (Cage etc)

    Artec mount dead center in the bed on the front bed wall. I'll post pics as soon as it shows up.
     
  11. Jan 20, 2016 at 10:31 AM
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    Be careful with the side mounted batteries. I know the Optimas aren't supposed to leak.... Mine does. I'm about 2 months out of warranty and I've heard of them telling people to kick rocks so I'm not even going to try. Sticking with NorthStar and the 4 year full warranty as soon as my optima craps
     
  12. Jan 20, 2016 at 10:44 AM
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    My 31M Diehard had to be warrantied after only a year...your Optima's made it 3 with no issues? I'll take that.
     
  13. Jan 20, 2016 at 10:47 AM
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    2 years! I understand not replacing a deep cycle from overuse. But if your "leak free" battery is not leak free that's a manufacturing issue
     
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    Thought Optima's had a 36 month warranty...
     
  15. Jan 20, 2016 at 10:56 AM
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    Not yellow top "commercial" (31A) or Blue tops.

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  16. Jan 20, 2016 at 10:59 AM
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    Well that sucks! Blue tops are basically the same thing as yellow tops that just have terminals and studs. I chose the 34/78 because of the cost/warranty and ease of finding. 31M was a PITA to locate locally when SEARS sold them.
     
  17. Jan 20, 2016 at 11:03 AM
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    Right. Then I'd always buy a yellow to get the extra 12 months of warranty if you don't want a "commercial" group 31 sizes yellow. It looks like there are also some overlap on yellow tops that are considered normal versus commercial with different warranties (12 vs 36 months). I don't know if they are marked differently or whatever but I see D34 mentioned with 2 different warranties, for example.
     
  18. Jan 20, 2016 at 11:08 AM
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    Probably comes down to how the battery was procured and are marked differently. The ones I just received are clearly marked 36 month
     
  19. Jan 20, 2016 at 11:13 AM
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    You're probably right. Mine was marked 24 months. Good luck with yours. I think 36 months is a perfectly reasonable warranty. Save your receipts where you can find them just in case.
     
  20. Jan 21, 2016 at 11:54 AM
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    Had a question re: red top vs. yellow top. Just got a Blue Sea 7622 ML-ACR to run an extra battery for my alternator and misc. accessories. I know the red is for starting and yellow for deep cycle, but is it ok to have one of each? I called Optima and they said its not ok to charge in parallel, but Blue Sea said its fine. Obviously I'm a noob when it comes to electrical, so any advice is appreciated. Thanks
     

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