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E15 is coming year round from 2025 for Mid West states

Discussion in 'Mid West' started by BabyBilly, Feb 22, 2024.

  1. Feb 22, 2024 at 6:57 PM
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    BabyBilly

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    https://www.reuters.com/business/en...ne-sales-expansion-midwest-states-2024-02-22/

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    "NEW YORK, Feb 22 (Reuters) - The U.S. government said on Thursday it approved a request from Midwestern governors allowing expanded sales of gasoline with higher blends of ethanol in their states, starting in 2025.

    Reuters had exclusively reported the impending announcement earlier this week.

    The government currently restricts sales of E15 gasoline, or gasoline with 15% ethanol, in summer months due to environmental concerns over smog, though the biofuel industry says those concerns are unfounded.

    The corn-based ethanol industry has been fighting for years for year-round sales of E15 but was frustrated by the 2025 start date, one year later than proposed.

    In 2022, the governors of Illinois, Iowa, Minnesota, Missouri, Nebraska, Ohio, South Dakota, and Wisconsin made the request for year-round E15 sales, saying the move could help lower pump prices by boosting fuel volumes.

    Some oil refiners have argued that allowing E15 in select states as opposed to nationwide could prompt localized fuel price spikes and supply issues.

    ...

    The Environmental Protection Agency had sent a final rule on the proposal to the White House in December with an effective date of April 28, 2024. The new timeline would push the effective date to April 28, 2025.

    "By extending the implementation date, this final action reduces the risk of gasoline supply issues this summer and the price impacts that could have come with 2024 implementation," an EPA official said on Thursday.

    The EPA did not comment on whether it would issue a temporary waiver enabling E15 sales this summer."

    "We cannot speculate about the 2024 summer driving season. We will continue to monitor the situation, consult closely with the Department of Energy, and be prepared to act should conditions warrant," the agency said.

    After the news, the Renewable Fuels Association, a biofuels trade group, called on the administration to take action to ensure consumers have access to E15 this summer, and said it was disappointed over the new rule's 2025 start date.

    The American Petroleum Institute, an oil industry group, meanwhile, said it supported a legislative solution that would allow year-round sales of E15 nationwide."
     
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  2. Feb 22, 2024 at 7:03 PM
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    Wouldn’t this technically be summer gas since it wasn’t sold in the winter?

    either way, I still prefer e0 or e10
     
  3. Feb 22, 2024 at 7:04 PM
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    sales are restricted in summer months, hence "winter" gas.

    "The government currently restricts sales of E15 gasoline...in summer months"
     
  4. Feb 22, 2024 at 8:45 PM
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    Winter blend is not the same.
     
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    e15 is not the same as winter blend. It’s just watered down with more ethanol.

    in winter they blend it with more butane - which is cheaper and brings the price down.. along with mpgs
     
  6. Feb 23, 2024 at 6:03 AM
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    Thread title updated to reflect E15, not winter gas.
     
  7. Feb 23, 2024 at 6:07 AM
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    The farmers like it
     
  8. Feb 23, 2024 at 6:14 AM
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    That's why it's happening. Agriculture lobby pressure on corn growing states' governors.
     
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    I’m sure the Governors of those states pushed it pretty hard
     
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    Why do they hate their constituents? Weird.
     
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    $$$$$$ blame someone else
     
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    Corn fuel is wasteful to produce, and we don't really need it but with all the subsidizing it does for farmers... I dunno. Burns just fine though, when the prices go low here for E85 I just switch my tune and run that instead... turn up the boost baby!
     
  13. Feb 23, 2024 at 6:28 AM
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    Quite the opposite.

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    Yeah I'm pretty sure @DetroitDarin meant their non-corn-farming constituents. We all understand those states produce a lot of corn and ethanol.
     
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    Probably I did mean that - but govt interference and forcing products is never a good thing long-term; not for the average joe.
     
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    That is still terrible policy for the .gov to interfere at all. It's bad for all of us, long term.
     
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    That's fair haha, I had a 135 with the N55 and didn't have enough HPFP overhead to run corn :( But my turbo 5VZ with 650cc injectors and 340lph pump likes it in my tacoma haha
     
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