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excessive rear droop?

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by HAVOC, Jun 24, 2019.

  1. Jun 24, 2019 at 5:15 PM
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    Curious about something I've noticed when my truck was on the lift to do some minor stuff.

    I have Bilstein 5100 rear shocks with ARB Dakar EL095R springs. I also have extended rear brake hoses and a u-bolt flip.

    (I think) my axle drops too much. It stretches the brake hoses and also the wires for the wheel speed sensors. I don't have extended brackets for these items because I didn't think I needed them. The truck will be on the lift this Saturday to do a R/F wheel bearing and install missing leaf spring pads. I was going to measure from the top of the tire to the bottom of the fender both when the truck is on the ground and up in the air. Is there anything else I should be looking at?
     
  2. Jun 24, 2019 at 5:47 PM
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    I have the medium duty Dakar’s and went with 5125s for 2-3” of lift and extended brake lines . Are the 5100s ok to run with the Dakar pack . I thought they would be too small. :notsure:
     
  3. Jun 24, 2019 at 5:49 PM
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    You should install an extended brake line with any amount of rear lift, not worth risking breaking the line when flexing out the rear and losing brake function. It's cheap insurance and easy to do
     
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  4. Jun 24, 2019 at 5:57 PM
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    I have extended brake hoses but I think they are still too short. I have these hoses from headstrong:

    24" Steel Braided Extended Rear Brake Lines for 05+ Toyota Tacoma - Coated

    This is the lift I have with "medium" springs (I carry little to no weight in the bed). https://www.headstrongoffroad.com/store/p594/HS_Coil/Bilstein_5100_Kit_w/_Dakars_(HS05BK-1-Dakar-HS).html
     
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  5. Jun 24, 2019 at 6:07 PM
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    You can go to ACE hardware and go to their metal sleeves section and grab a 1" long metal sleeve to use as a spacer between the hard brake line bracket and the top of the rear axle. It will space out your brake lines giving you a bit more slack to hopefully prevent excessive stretching. The wheel speed sensors are a bit more tricky to deal with. A few members have tried the same spacer idea with mixed results. Others have simply soldered in wire extensions.

    @EatSleepTacos has done this
     
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  6. Jun 24, 2019 at 6:43 PM
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  7. Jun 28, 2019 at 3:08 PM
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    I'm not sure. Will it say it on the side of the shock?
     
  8. Jun 28, 2019 at 4:19 PM
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    You can measure it and see. You’ll have to droop your rear end out and measure them. On the bottom, center of the bolt. On the top, to where the shock enters the upper mount.
     
  9. Jun 28, 2019 at 4:34 PM
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    I'll have it on the lift tomorrow so I can look then.
    I'm also going to measure tire to bedside distance on the ground and when on the lift.
     
  10. Jun 28, 2019 at 4:36 PM
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    While it’s on the lift, check out how tight the brake lines/abs lines are
     
  11. Jun 28, 2019 at 4:49 PM
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    Last time it was on the lift, when I noticed the "issue", both hoses and ABS wires were snug. I'm thinking maybe a 1" spacer will be all I need.
    I'm going to unbolt the brackets while it's on the lift and see what will be a good size spacer.
     
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  12. Jun 29, 2019 at 12:46 PM
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    Forgot to measure the shock when it was on the lift today.
    I did measure from the bottom of the flare to the top of the tire:
    on the ground - 9 1/2" est.
    on the lift - 15 3/4" est.

    Also, the passenger leaf spring hits the exhaust when it's on the lift.

    I added a 3/4" spacer to the brake hose bracket and unclipped the ABS harness.
    I also installed the two missing leaf spring pads.

    spacer.jpg
     
    Last edited: Jun 29, 2019

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