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Felix Hernandez vs. CC Sabathia

Discussion in 'Sports, Hobbies & Interests' started by Lost_Humanity, Sep 27, 2010.

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Who Should Win The AL Cy Young Award?

Poll closed Oct 27, 2010.
  1. Felix Hernandez

    8 vote(s)
    80.0%
  2. CC Sabathia

    2 vote(s)
    20.0%
  1. Sep 27, 2010 at 2:13 PM
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    Lost_Humanity

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    Okay, so there is a raging debate going on in the media about who should win the AL Cy Young Award this year.

    Basically, the voters have fallen into 2 camps.

    CC Sabathia:
    20-7
    3.26 ERA
    2 Complete Games
    229.1 Innings Pitched
    189 Strikeouts
    72 Walks

    Felix Hernandez:
    12-12
    2.31 ERA
    6 Complete Games
    241.2 Innings Pitched
    227 Strikeouts
    68 Walks

    The crux of the argument hinges on this:

    Felix Hernandez has been arguably the best pitcher in every standard and advanced statistic except WINS. Should Sabathia win the AL Cy Young because he has 8 more wins than Hernandez, or should Felix win for better in all other categories, but just not having the win total?

    Who you got?

    I'll see if I can get someone to put up a poll, too.
     
  2. Sep 27, 2010 at 2:16 PM
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    CC - he won more games...and thats what it comes down to, winning games.
     
  3. Sep 27, 2010 at 2:24 PM
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    Felix... Because you can pitch a damn good game every 5 games, but have little to no offensive support from your lineup to help with your win/loss record.
     
  4. Sep 27, 2010 at 2:49 PM
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    Felix.. It is so damn frustrating as a Mariners fan :anonymous: to know that in order for Felix to get a win he has to pitch a damn near perfect game. I think you need to look much farther than his win loss ratio, I mean he is on a team that could not bat its way out of a wet paper bag. He is one if the few bright spots we have and I would love to see him get it this year, based off of his numbers I really think he should. I mean he lost his last start giving up one run and 2 hits. It's not his fault he is teamed with a bunch of offensively disfunctional morons.
     
  5. Sep 27, 2010 at 2:57 PM
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    In case nobody noticed, I agree.

    For the record, in his 12 losses, Felix has given up 14 runs. 10 of them Earned Runs.
     
  6. Sep 27, 2010 at 3:01 PM
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    The King

    Displaced Mariners fan here, Felix would have won so many more games if he had ANY run support, hope he gets it.
     
  7. Sep 27, 2010 at 3:06 PM
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    There was a point where he had 10 losses and in that stretch the Mariners were able to give him a total of 10 runs in support of him. I think there was a 3 game stretch were they gave him nothing. :annoyed:
     
  8. Sep 27, 2010 at 3:08 PM
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    King Felix- If he played for the yanks he would have would 20+ this season for sure. I don't know if seattle has even won 20 games as a team yet...
     
  9. Sep 27, 2010 at 4:36 PM
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    I'm pretty sure I could've won at least 6 games with the Yankees offense.
     
  10. Sep 27, 2010 at 4:56 PM
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    MVP? I'll take CC. Cy Young, i.e. best pitcher? King Felix without a question.
     
  11. Sep 28, 2010 at 9:30 AM
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    Wow. Good to see Felix running away with this thing.

    With...er....six votes.
     
  12. Sep 28, 2010 at 9:55 AM
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    I don't agree with this ^^^ because of this VVV
    X2 Colton.
     
  13. Oct 2, 2010 at 2:03 PM
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    Joe Morgan is a damn idiot. I cannot stand that guy. How he continues to have a job as the #1 baseball analyst, for the #1 sports network in the country despite continuously spouting disinformation and nonsense is beyond me.

    I love the site FireJoeMorgan.com, but, sadly, they don't write anymore.
     
  15. Nov 18, 2010 at 11:14 AM
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    Well two great things have happened, no more Joe Morgan, and...


    King Felix won the CY Young!!!!!!!
     
  16. Nov 18, 2010 at 12:51 PM
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    As a Mariners fan, it's been awesome watching this guy grow since he was 19. Never afraid to throw any of his pitches anywhere in the count. IMO, nobody more deserving of the award. What a great moment for the guy. Props also to the great year CC and Price had.
     
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