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Finally a fix from Toyota for Stumble condition (TSB 0062-18)

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016+)' started by AWDDude, Jul 19, 2018.

  1. Oct 19, 2018 at 4:45 PM
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    2006Jackpot

    2006Jackpot Well-Known Member

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    Carver finally got the parts in this week.... had both done today noticed shifting improvement when going up a slight incline it will now just down shift one gear to 5th instead of holding 6th too long and then dropping all the way down to 4th. Can't say much more yet but I see an improvement so far
    I can still find the howl but not near as noticeable.
    I worked with Ruth Miller Asst. Service Manager - she was great. She told me after it was done that they have had some Tacoma's that the ECU flash didn't stay and they have had to open cases with Toyota on those trucks. She was very open about telling me to pay close attention to it and call if it should start to show the weird shifting again.
    Very pleased as this was my first experience with them - won't be my last!
     
  2. Oct 19, 2018 at 5:24 PM
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    ECU flash didn't stay? I don't think that's possible.
     
  3. Oct 19, 2018 at 5:26 PM
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    2006Jackpot

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    Yeah me either - but maybe she meant it reverts back to being the same condition as before like others have stated here. Hope I don't have to find out.....
     
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  4. Oct 21, 2018 at 6:02 PM
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    It will revert back..
    I had to disconnect the battery to get it reset.
    Truck feels as it was after tsb.
    Will try to drive in S until 1.05 release
     
  5. Oct 21, 2018 at 7:07 PM
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    Lt. Dangle

    Lt. Dangle Thinks skiploder needs a hug

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    I'm gonna say something that goes against the conventional wisdom around here...

    My tsb specifically mentioned and adressed the hesitation from a stop. It never said anything about the surge. I find it very hard to believe Toyota released a TSB addressing all these issues covered by a single TSB. I know the calibration numbers are the same, but I just can't see one TSB fixing all the issues at once.

    Anyways, my truck is at the body shop getting rust fixed, so I have moved on to other issues lol.
     
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  6. Oct 21, 2018 at 9:16 PM
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    NMTrailRider

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    Were you the one with rust on the door sill?
     
  7. Oct 21, 2018 at 9:26 PM
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    I've just assumed they simply do the best they can with one single calibration (the "latest"). And then use that same calibration for anyone with any complaints, but change the wording on the TSB/ID# so it's specific to a particular issue. That way, they have a record/database of complaints.

    They're not gonna simultaneously install different ECU calibrations for every issue that pops up, whether that be 3 different versions or 11 different versions. I guess i think of it more like computer operating systems. You can install windows. And it'll work flawlessly on 96 identical computers. But it'll be buggy on 4 computers. Figured it's the same with our trucks now days. And the TSB's are kinda like security patches on computers.

    But that's just me speculating.
     
  8. Oct 22, 2018 at 3:17 AM
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    runmc

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    I had mine re flashed this past Saturday and the service writer told me they had one calibration that they downloaded from Toyota that reprogrammed the ECM. It covered it all.
     
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  9. Oct 22, 2018 at 5:19 AM
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    1k miles on and it still shifts good, but also still has a harsh shift when giving it some gas after coming to a stop and also still clunks into 1st for me.
     
  10. Oct 22, 2018 at 5:34 AM
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    Fitzwilly

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    They flashed whatever software was for TSB0058-18 into mine on Friday morning. I think I feel a difference on the 40-50mph backroads to and from work...could be placebo effect.
     
  11. Oct 22, 2018 at 6:27 AM
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    Lt. Dangle

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    Yep.

    Body shop mgr told me they found rust in all 4 sills lol.
    Love it.
     
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  12. Oct 22, 2018 at 6:32 AM
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    I'm just speculating as well, so no worries. I just find it hard to believe that Toyota got one tsb to cover all the current issues. Especially when what it's supposed to correct isn't listed as a repair. Who knows though. I got the high altitude tsb and don't live at a high altitude, yet had the high altitude symptoms and problems...

    I'm just wanting to drive the darn thing.
     
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  13. Oct 22, 2018 at 6:36 AM
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    Been running the 04B04 since it was released. So maybe 4-5k miles or so.

    It's not as good as day one, but no other complaints besides one that's getting more and more noticeable.

    In the OVTune thread, they talk about a clunk when coming to a stop. I'm getting that more and more and it almost feels like I got rear ended lightly. Enough that my head hits the headrest. I can't always reproduce it on demand but it used to be rare and only when stopping quickly from a decent speed. Now it's happening on slow stops. I believe some have said it's due to the torque converter being locked and not unlocking in time. It did not do this before the TSB.

    Otherwise everything else seems fine and roughly the same as when I had the TSB installed.
     
  14. Oct 22, 2018 at 11:28 AM
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    I got hassle. I was told by the SR that I would have to wait 4 hours for the tranny fluid to cool down before they could apply the update. That was followed by a "WTF? It is a software update, what does this have to do with fluid?"
     
  15. Oct 22, 2018 at 11:41 AM
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    So after about 5,000 kms my truck feels like it did before. Its now at 45,000 kms. Kind of a shame because it felt peppier and really
    smoothed out the tranny coming in and out of OD with the cruise on. Now its back to lurching down on slightest grade or passing seagull.

    Just have to live with it now...
     
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  16. Oct 22, 2018 at 1:16 PM
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    They want to check your transmission fluid level. Has to cool down before they can check it.
     
  17. Oct 22, 2018 at 4:36 PM
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    Got my OBD2 scanner today and confirmed ECU Calibration ID is 8966304B0400 so while I didn't get a sticker stating they did the update it was updated to the most recent version folks have posted here for the 2016.
    Should anyone care this is the OBD2 scanner I got
    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B011NSX27A/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
    and am using "Car Scanner ELM OBD2" from Google Play Store
     
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  18. Oct 22, 2018 at 5:25 PM
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    I see a market for a battery disconnect switch so you don't have to unbolt the cable. Unless it already exists.

    Actually what am I thinking, I used to have one on my race car. Might think about installing one.
     
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  19. Oct 22, 2018 at 10:03 PM
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    Went in today for TSB 0058-18 (TCI-5133) which afaik is the same calibration file/ID as the newer TSB 0062-18 (TCI-5143). Dealer was an hour away so I got to drive it around for a bit after on and off highway. Very happy to report it drives a lot better and responsive, shifting feels smoother and I feel like I don't have to step on it as hard to get it going. When I needed the power, passing on the highway was a breeze and it didn't do the aggressive downshift putting you in high revs like before. All in all very happy with the results and crazy to think I drove almost a year on stock tune. Now just waiting for OVTune 1.05 to see if it will blow this TSB away!

    PS: The dealer did the free update no questions asked, they simply checked when the vehicle was produced and determined mine did not have the TSB since the TSB was released July 2018 and mine was still running old calibration ID. If your dealer is requiring to test drive the vehicle to replicate the issue and refuse to do the TSB if they cannot replicate the issue that is BS. I've had this issue so I've had to call around until I finally found a dealer who would accept my request hassle free, done in half hour with some drinks, snacks and a car wash. :thumbsup:
     
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  20. Oct 23, 2018 at 2:01 AM
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    so I might be having those symptoms. anybody have a video of it actually happening to them before the tsb was applied?
     
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