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Finally an all alluminum radiator for the first gen Tacos

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by CHEF JEFF, Feb 18, 2018.

  1. Feb 19, 2018 at 5:22 AM
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    Clearwater Bill

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    What was the reason for that failure rate?

    Physical damage to the tanks of some type?
     
  2. Feb 19, 2018 at 5:28 AM
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    I've never liked how low the radiator hung on my first gen in the stock configuration. Does this help with that at all?
     
  3. Feb 19, 2018 at 5:57 AM
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    Probably not.
     
  4. Feb 19, 2018 at 7:20 AM
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    I just read somewhere on here the other day that som guys use a 2wd radiator in the 4wd Tacoma’s because they do not hang down so far
     
  5. Feb 19, 2018 at 7:54 AM
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    The top of the radiator is made of plastic and they crack for whatever reason, I've had 3 crack on me over the years, it's just a bad design by Toyota probably to cut on costs
     
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  6. Feb 19, 2018 at 8:11 AM
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    And @License2Ill it's 4".

    https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/aluminum-radiator.383062/page-4#post-17097736
    https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/aluminum-radiator.383062/page-5#post-17098230
     
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  7. Feb 19, 2018 at 8:49 AM
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    Question was to OP who said he had to replace every 6 months. That's not normal.

    I'm not a particular fan of plastic tanks, but they've been around for decades and under normal use, most last at least 90-100k.
     
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  8. Feb 19, 2018 at 9:53 AM
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  9. Feb 19, 2018 at 10:03 AM
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    Dirty Pool I WAS DRIVING THAT MODEL A

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    Got that, to that end the Champion "hangs down" 4" less than the PR/4wd auto trans app and around 2" less than the man trans version. Am I missing something?
     
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  10. Feb 19, 2018 at 10:05 AM
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    No, I think I'm the one that's confused... My B
     
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  11. Feb 19, 2018 at 2:21 PM
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    @Dirty Pool

    What's your thoughts on a smaller 3 Row vs larger 1 Row (oem?) regarding cooling efficiency?.
    Seems the webz is in a pissing match over it... Understandably.
     
  12. Feb 19, 2018 at 4:09 PM
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    I don't think there is a comparison if you look at the math. The stock radiator is only 1" thick with one core row and the champion is 2" thick I believe with 3 cores. Even though it's a bit smaller it covers
    probably 70 percent more surface area roughly because of its 2" depth not adding the 2 additional core surface area.
    OEM Large version 22x25x1= 550. One row
    CHAMPION. 18.8x25x2= 940. Three row
    I think this math is correct
     
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  13. Feb 19, 2018 at 4:23 PM
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    Yeah, I realize that it'll be beneficial being larger. But is also may hinder cooling (say crawling,) when the clutch fan is trying to pull decent air through while it's seeing increased air resistance through a thicker rad when going such a slow speed like 1 MPH while hitting 3000 RPM's. That's what I'm curious about...
     
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  14. Feb 19, 2018 at 5:18 PM
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    I would have no concerns what so ever.
     
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  15. Feb 19, 2018 at 5:26 PM
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    This, to me is a concern. However, I feel like the stock fan, with shroud would be able to handle it. Myself, I would prefer a "2 row core".
     
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  16. Jun 9, 2018 at 11:50 PM
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    Haaaa, so the CC1998 4runner Radiator will not fit into the Tacoma even if you remove the hood rod support?
    You still need to have the inlet and outlet and filler sections moved??
    The inlet and outlet look like they line up but the filler is in a different area.
     
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  17. Jun 10, 2018 at 9:39 AM
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    The hood support rod is not the issue. The hood supports on the bottom of the hoods are what contact the top of the radiator cap.
     
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    Ok, so then the hood will not close at all or just rubs against it?
     
  19. Jun 10, 2018 at 9:58 AM
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    It would close, but you could tell there was pressure on the cap. Also, the inside edge of the hood rubbed the top, front edge of the radiator. In the year or so I had it, it was not an issue. However, I'm sure it's not something you want over the long haul.
     
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  20. Oct 1, 2019 at 1:28 PM
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    Has anyone come to the conclusion of needing rubber mounts so the new aluminum rad can flex?

    Not exactly wanting to drop over $200 and break it after a couple wheeling trips
     
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