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Finally got my Total Chaos kit installed

Discussion in 'Long Travel Suspension' started by TrapComa, Aug 26, 2017.

  1. Aug 26, 2017 at 4:01 PM
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    Finally got my Total Chaos +3.5 race kit and Icon coilovers installed. I also have 4" Maxtrac spindles so I'm at about 6" lift. I love it, needs glass and rear end, both coming soon. It took me about 8 hours and 5 beers to install with a friend. Sure am glad I didn't pay a shop 1000 dollars to do it. Now let's hope it doesn't break

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  2. Aug 26, 2017 at 7:34 PM
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    Now time to gusset whatever you haven't already lol
     
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  3. Aug 27, 2017 at 9:21 AM
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    Cam tabs and shock tower
     
  4. Aug 27, 2017 at 9:29 AM
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    Only certain kits work with it. I know for sure Total Chaos Race Kit works with no modification, because they use OEM ball joint housings to adapt the uniball to the spindle, but their standard kit requires spacers in the uniball mount because it's much slimmer than OEM.

    It floats lol. On the road it's a little boaty and sways (I also Test drove it through the middle of Hurricane Harvey with my slick stock tires on, so im gonna get it out again soon when the water subsides) but when I took it over a rail road track hit a dirt road it felt like a jaguar chasing a gazelle. It felt like it crawled over the railroad track, where as before it felt like it was running into the tracks. I was super impressed with it. My mid travel friend couldn't keep up and didn't even have my all terrains on
     
  5. Aug 27, 2017 at 9:53 AM
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    Here's a full droop and a fender picture. I had it on the stock 245s because it's so much easier to roll it around the shop and to take the wheels off and put back on, so I waited until I was done with it to put the 33s back on. Hurricane Harvey is still tearing us up outside so it's just sitting in the rain. I knocked it out yesterday because what else can you do in a hurricane?

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  6. Aug 27, 2017 at 10:55 AM
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    You can run this kit on 4x4, but the most lift you can get out of 4x4 with it is 3". 33s aren't bad on mine because I have lift spindles for 6" lift. 33s will definitely tear up the stock fenders if you don't go as tall as mine. But yeah it's fun to drive
     
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  7. Aug 27, 2017 at 11:28 AM
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    Yeah its a lot easier to get a lot of travel out of 2wd. It's much less to break and it's much easier to install. Plus it's cheaper for 2wd
     
  8. Aug 27, 2017 at 12:04 PM
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    You don't want mine The steering rack leaks, AC doesn't work. Racing seats are less than desirable for daily driving. Plus it's a 4 cylinder 5 speed. I daily drive a Prius and break this one loose every once in a while
     
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  9. Aug 27, 2017 at 12:09 PM
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    @jeff b I saw your thread about jeep headlights. I had these made last summer. Paid 800 dollars for them and they were done super shittily and the jeep lights came loose after a couple of weeks. I still have the parts and I'm gonna give it a whirl again soon.

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  10. Aug 27, 2017 at 1:03 PM
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    Thanks man, I'm glad to hear that other people think the same way I do about it! I'm the 2nd owner on mine. I got it bone stock and have about 10,000 in mods on it. With over half of that being the long travel suspension
     
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  11. Aug 27, 2017 at 1:06 PM
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    Why do you have wheel spacers with your long travel kit ?
     
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    16" rims won't fit on Maxtrac spindles without them. I'm getting 18" Methods and 35x12.5 at some point though
     
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    Ah, don't get 18's though stick with 17's
     
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    I thought about that. But method 17s are exactly the minimum size and back spacing that fit on the spindles. I'd rather go a tad bigger
     
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    ...but you lose sidewall which is exactly what you don't want to do. If 17's clear uses them. The 18's are also a 9" wide wheel whereas the 17's are an 8.5 which is also better.
     
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    I plan on running either 33 or 35x12.5, so I'd rather have a wider rim. Also if I run 17s that barely fit, the 12.5s could still rub. I probably won't ever push this long travel kit to the limits so losing 1/2" of sidewall on the ground will probably never make a difference to me
     
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    False. Yes they do, you just need a minimum 4.75 (IIRC, maybe 4.5) backspacing on the rims.
     
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    Gotta have 17" with 4.75" BS or less. 16" would have to have less (which mine don't).

    Sources- I tried two sets of 16" rims and neither fit without spacers
     
  19. Aug 27, 2017 at 10:48 PM
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    As you can see, my spacers are 1.25, but there is less than 1.25" between the rim and the spindle

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    Never would of thought to add 1.25 spacers on a 3.5 kit, but damn I guess its possible. You did CMC your stuff already right? Going with 35s and full cycling I would imagine you will be slamming some shit if you don't.
     

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