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Finished front 5100 install but just noticed something... am I boned?

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by SlurpeeBlueMetallic, Jun 19, 2010.

  1. Jun 19, 2010 at 1:11 PM
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    SlurpeeBlueMetallic

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    I just finished installing 5100s on the front of my Prerunner and was recapping the FSM docs as a mental checklist. When I went through the first time I didn't notice this diagram:

    [​IMG]

    So I head out to check it and, of course, the lower end of my coils are not facing the rear of the truck. I paid so much attention to lining up the top three nuts to the bottom of the shock that I completely zoned out on this one.

    Am I boned and have to take it out to realign it? Crap!
     
  2. Jun 19, 2010 at 1:12 PM
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    FlawedXJ

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    I was kinda under the impression the coils fit in there one way only (grooves at the bottom coil plate).... I never double checked it on mine cause I knew they fit this way. You might wanna realign them for safety reasons. Better safe than sorry.
     
  3. Jun 19, 2010 at 1:14 PM
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    SlurpeeBlueMetallic

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    They do fit in the cup on the shock only in one place but on the 5100s that cup can rotate around freely until you mount them into the assembly.

    I got the top three nuts lined up with the base of the shock so I could physically get each strut back into my truck but didn't get the coils pointed like the diagram above shows.
     
  4. Jun 19, 2010 at 1:52 PM
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    If the end of the coil is in it's home correctly it should not matter which direction it faces.
    The end of the coil wire should be nice and snug in the relief on the cup.
    Make sure the cup is not upside down.
    I did that on my first try.
    If you can see the locking clip below the cup it may be flipped.
    The cup should cover the spring.
     
  5. Jun 19, 2010 at 4:13 PM
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    Nope, the cup is definitely not flipped upside down (seen too many posts where that happened) and the spring is seated in the relief snugly.

    I went ahead and re-did it so it looks like the picture above. The good news is with all the practice now I can swap out front 5100s by myself in 2.25 hours. The bad news is I did it twice in one day :eek:
     
  6. Jun 19, 2010 at 4:22 PM
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    what spring compressor did you use?
     
  7. Jun 19, 2010 at 4:32 PM
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    These from Amazon.

    I talked to a few folks who used the Harbor Freight model. It seems to work well initially but many report problems after the second or third use. Two guys I know even had it stick with tension still on the spring... one had to use a BFH to get it to loosen and another had to cut the clips off in order to fully release. I plan on using these for my wife's Impala as well since she needs new shocks.

    The ones I got worked fine...even after having to compress/decompress 4+ times to get everything lined up. They take a fair amount of effort to do by hand but I never once felt like they were going to slip off or break. Our springs are too thick for the included safety clips to work. I tried reversing them to see if they would fit better but that was ineffective so I just removed them. Lube them well before using to reduce the amount of effort. I also found after they sat under tension for a while that a quick shot of WD-40 onto the retainers made it a bit easier to get them moving again.
     
  8. Jun 19, 2010 at 5:55 PM
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    Crappy cell phone pic as it's getting dark but here's the result. Almost dead-level even at 1.75" in the front with TSB rear springs. Time for 5100's in the back and to start saving for new tires.

    [​IMG]
     
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    Looks good!
     
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    I just noticed I have one facing the right way and one facing the wrong way...guess I need to fix it huh?

    What is the reasoning for this...I figured it was centered either way?
     
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    im a little lost. when i did coils on a Camaro, there was only one way it would go in. I figured this the same.

    what exactly is this diagram showing?
     
  12. Aug 21, 2011 at 10:39 PM
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    My directions never mentioned this. Is there any harm in not having the coil end toward the rear?
     
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    Maybe Chris4X4 will chime in or one of the other experienced guys...
     
  14. Aug 22, 2011 at 9:57 AM
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    It's showing the orientation of the bottom of the coil where it sits on the coil seat. I got mine pre-assembled, I'll see if they're oriented that way or not...
     
  15. Aug 22, 2011 at 10:07 AM
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    Isn't that in relation to the front of the truck?? I've called Toytec, DSMS, and Bilstein. Sounds like it shouldn't matter. I never got that diagram in anything I recieved...
     
  16. Aug 22, 2011 at 10:11 AM
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    It shouldn't hurt anything. I believe its just to give added clearance for the sway bar. I've had the lower spring seats in differently positions and never had an issue.
     
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    Yes, in relation to the front of the truck as indicated by the arrow on the diagram. I got mine preassembled from Toytec so I'll see if they payed attention to how they put them together. I know some people have had issues with the UCA hitting the coil if they're put on in the wrong orientation. I'm pretty sure they were aftermarket coils though.
     
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    Mine does hit the coil at full droop. Hmmm.....could be the problem
     
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    i had my assembled by a local shop.

    The coil on my drivers side is correct. The coil on my passenger's side is incorrect.

    If the front of the truck is 12 o'clock and the prope rlocation for the end of the coil is 6 o'clock, my passenger side is 9 o'clock. basically its facing the engine block instead of the back of the truck.

    with it being "off", is there a need to take it apart and bring it to the shop that compressed it and have them spin it?
     

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