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Discussion in 'Suspension' started by Young_Taco, Jan 10, 2018.

  1. Jan 10, 2018 at 5:48 PM
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    Young_Taco

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    Alright Ladies and gents..here’s the rup. I got a 16’ 4x4 sport.
    What I’m trying to achieve is a good ol’ 3-4” lift so I can run wide and tall tires. 33/10-10.5 would be perfect for me. I like the wide aggressive stance.
    I’ve looked and researched everywhere from spacer/block lifts all the way up to Icon stage 5’s and even into long travel kits.
    Now I’m not crawling rocks or baja-ing through the sand dunes. Simply an expeditionary, outdoorsy, vehicle for all my outdoor hobbies!
    Hit me with everything you got.

    (Also not a super Knowledgeable Roadie so break it down Barnie style)
     
  2. Jan 10, 2018 at 5:52 PM
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    What kind of budget are you playing with.
     
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    Just call Marie @HeadStrong Off-Road she will set you up with something that works for you. Your choice of tires will also play a big role in how your truck rides/performs so start looking at those as well.
     
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    Somewhere starting around 3k up to 4 1/2k. Now that’s just for the suspension/lift not including tires and wheels.
     
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    BP-51 kit then spend the rest on skids and sliders.
     
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    Like I said that’s my budget for the suspension side of the house not including sliders and armor and other stuff! But thanks for that suggestion I’ll look into them
     
  7. Jan 10, 2018 at 6:50 PM
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    Ok then.
     
  8. Jan 10, 2018 at 7:53 PM
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    3" lift is generally the highest recommended for those wanting to lift... properly.

    You can fit 33's in a 255 width (255/85/16 for example) without too much modification. If you do 285's (width) you'll need to chop your cab mount.

    The type of tire you get and it's load rating make a huge difference in not only performance but also ride comfort. I run Load-E Cooper ST Maxx (which do AWESOME in snow/ice, dirt, Moab, Montana Mountains, etc). But they're a very stiff tire on such a small truck. And heavy.

    For $3k you can get a pretty solid quality suspension system. Old Man Emu's BP-51's are probably the newest to the game. Fox, Kings, Icon, and ADS are fairly high end options for "racing" type shocks.

    I would avoid Long Travel based on your mentioning you don't want to rock crawl or baja. Long Travel is all about droop... which you don't need if you're not planning to Baja or seriously rock crawl.

    Plan on buying Upper Control Arms with whatever suspension lift you do.
     
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    I’m hoping to get 33’s with 10” width. You or anyone you know run a width like that? And if so backspacing/offset/wheel size specs?
     
  10. Jan 10, 2018 at 8:00 PM
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    You can fit a 285 without needing to chop, it all depends on the wheel. There’s someone on TW running 33” on stock suspension.
     
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    Quality stuff man, appreciate that. I really want to do Cooper STT Pro 285/75R16. Praying that it’ll fit with minor mods
     
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    Research into a wheel that can make that happen! I ran 275/70/17 on stock suspension for a while. With the right wheel you can easily get the 285’s in there.
     
  13. Jan 10, 2018 at 8:10 PM
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    Debated doing STT Pro's next. But the Cooper tire shop in town tells me the ST Maxx last longer (tread life) because the STT Pro have a softer compound. And my ST Maxx have been awesome.

    All depends on what you want the tire to do though! There's a pest control company here in Montana that ONLY buys Ford Raptors for fleet trucks and they ONLY run Cooper STT Pro tires. Owner told me both are because of the rural homes they have to get to and crappy snow packed (often unplowed) roads.
     
  14. Jan 10, 2018 at 8:11 PM
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    Yep as Blue mentioned a 255/85/16 or 255/80/17 like I have are 33.06 x 10.4" I believe. Many have run these on stock suspeneion and had no problems. I had them on this truck stock for a little while and had some rubbing which was fine because to lift was already planned. A 3rd gen has even a little more clearance than a second gen I believe stock. You've already been given some good advice on lifts my budget wasn't nearly as high as what your working with but I'm very pleased with what I put together. I have no intentions of rock crawling or desert running although good trails through the mtns and hopefully the desert are a goal. The 255's are Erated as Blue said but with them being a more narrow tire they offer a smaller contact patch giving less rolling resistence. Your choice of tire brands will also dictate how well they ride. I can only speak to what I have eperience with but mine ride really good, pretty quiet, and have given great traction in anything I've put them through yet.
     
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    I'm skeptical. Even my 255's have caused rubbing on the plastic liner near the cab mount. I've had to do +3 caster to help reduce that while turning. And these are 3cm narrower than a 285.
     
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    I ran 275/70/17 for a while on stock suspension.
     
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    Which is 1cm narrower than 285s. LOL

    The height isn't so much the issue. Width is. Turning the wheel left to ride is what causes the tire to rub the cab mount. Ride height (lift) only helps to some degree. Unless you get so high the tire is no longer in the wheel well... but that's nuts.
     
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    OP never mentioned what his use would be, just insight and recommendations and that’s what I offered. Not everyone is looking to wheel their 30k+ truck:stayontopic:
     
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