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Fox Shocks keep leaking

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016+)' started by schneire22, Jun 27, 2020.

  1. Jun 27, 2020 at 5:54 AM
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    schneire22

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    I have the Fox shocks 2.0 with remote reservoir on the rear of my 2019. Doesn't seem to matter how I mount them, the hose eventually finds something to rub on and starts leaking. The first failure rubbed on the tire and cost me a tire too. The second actually didn't rub on anything at all and still started leaking at the fitting. After remounting the reservoir to ensure they couldn't reach the tire, the 3rd ended up rubbing on the shock mount. The other side is already showing wear against the shock mount too. I am up to 3 replacements in less than a year. The second failure was warranty but took over 30 days to get repaired and cost me $70 in shipping and was a horrible experience with near no way to reach them to get status.

    The front 2.5 have been functionally fine, although they look like crap now due to almost immediate oxidation/corrosion.

    Any recommendations on replacing the rear with something that will last would be appreciated.
     
  2. Jun 27, 2020 at 6:04 AM
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    I used these to relocate my resis along the frame rail and haven't had an issue:

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007CISHT4/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

    Definitely agree it's not the best hose design given the method they want you to mount the resi's, much too long and should use fittings to make the bends, so these mounts keep things in line and as a bonus keep the reservoirs in view

    Side note but totally agree that oxidation and corrosion on the front coilovers sucks balls.

    Hate to see you get rid of such a pricey set of rear shocks when you can get rid of your issues for $20
     
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  3. Jun 27, 2020 at 6:23 AM
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    Fox quality has gone down the tubes.

    I have 2.5 Res coilovers on a 13 Tacoma and the adjuster knobs do not turn.

    Fernando Ramirez (Service Supervisor – Offroad Division) from Fox offered that I could ship back at my cost where they would the evaluate potential issues with the shocks. How these left the factory with defects is unknown. For shocks that are 2 months old this is unacceptable.

    My position is that the product failed and is defective out of the box. The Fox shocks will be returned for full refund. I'm going to go with a manufacture that will stand behind their product.
     
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  4. Jun 27, 2020 at 6:24 AM
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    This ^^^ The cheap reliable Billstein 5100's looking pretty good compared too some of these way overpriced shock companies.
     
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  5. Jun 27, 2020 at 6:29 AM
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    About 8k miles and no issues here, the 2.0's do have a tiny ass lookin hose.

    35821424-EFE7-4D87-8477-A9479F18F1BF.jpg
     
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    Im putting in 6112’s on this morning with 5100’s in the rear. I was told the 5160’s are having leaking issues so 5011 it is. I have had Bilstein 5100 on my other truck for years and they still perform and look great.
     
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  7. Jun 27, 2020 at 7:16 AM
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    Yep, this is the second upgrade I did. The problem is that it turns the fitting to where the hose touched the shock bracket. I tried to leave a slight "service loop" in the hose. That is the one that started leaking at the fitting. Assuming from stress from the slack in the hose.
     
  8. Jun 27, 2020 at 7:30 AM
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    so you can’t get the adjuster to turn, they offered support, and you’re claiming they don’t stand behind the product?

    Are you sure the knob isn’t too tight. The DSCs can be a PITA to turn if they are tight/loose but work fine once broke free. I’ve used an Allen key to achieve this on ones that are really tight. Find the proper sized Allen and stick it into one of the three Allen screws allowing you to apply more leverage.
     
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  9. Jun 27, 2020 at 7:43 AM
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    In terms of the knobs not turning, I'm assuming you didn't keep them lubed other wise you would have lead with "I keep the protected with FF or Lithium and they won't turn any more".

    And OP. So let me get this straight. You added aftermarket shocks to a truck. They were installed improperly causing the reservoirs to come in contact with the tire. Then further down the line the shock was allowed to rotate into the upper shock mount, which doesn't happen over night. Which again, is either an improper install or failure to inspect aftermarket parts.

    Sucks that it happened, but Fox can't install it properly for you or send you a reminder to check your gear now and then.



    It's either " Fox's extremely common and basic hardware is so different that it allowed the shock to be desyroyed",

    Or its "Due to poor install and lack of maintenance the shock was allowed to come into interference with other truck parts" which has nothing to do with fox as a company.


    Just telling it how it is.
     
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    Hey hey hey, customers are always right man! Get outa here with that nonsense
     
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  12. Jun 27, 2020 at 8:28 AM
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    Do you have any pictures of these failures?

    I am by no means a Fox fan, but these are top of the line shocks...this is fact.

    I also did a little digging and see Illinois is your location. Being in the rust belt is going to be very difficult to keep shocks from not oxidizing without a fair amount of care from you. What some people forget is the maintenance needed to own this equipment.

    This is just my personal opinion, but if the owner of these types of shocks can’t rebuild and service them...probably not the best purchase. There’s no way I would wait weeks on a simple hose swap, leaking o-ring, or N2 pressure adjustment.
     
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  13. Jun 27, 2020 at 8:40 AM
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    Not to distract from OP post.
    Shocks with <500 miles and only 2 months old never seeing dirt or any other type of contamination leads me to believe they are clean. Removal of the knobs there was no signs of dust in there. trying to turn with proper size Allen wrenches in the non threaded holes the wrenches and res mounts were bending. Sure I could see a bit of initial force needed to get them moving, but I'd say this is outside mfg torque tolerances turning a knob. Basic failure analysis isolated the issue to the high speed compression shaft.

    Sure Fox offered to look at them, however after spending $2k on coilovers, I do not see this as reasonable covering any added costs.

    When modifying a vehicle one must be aware of any interferences that could exist. For example a local shop TAV installed Fox coilovers on my buddies Tacoma and had the spacers flipped where the coils hit the sway bar. Simple fix, but it should have never left any garage with an interference issue.

    Customer is not always right, but when a technical issue can be troubleshot down to a single point of failure external of customer influence, then it falls back on the mfg.
     
  14. Jun 27, 2020 at 9:05 AM
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    Out of curiosity, were they that stiff before mounted to the truck?

    The whole knob thing is kinda of a gray area for me. All the knobs on all foxes I've put my hands on, on the truck, have been a bit stiff. I have zero idea if yours are stiffer, so hard to compare. Normally the low speed moves fine and the higher speed requires both hands.


    It's unfortunate, but if fox attempts to make good on it, it's kinda hard to throw shade at them.
     
  15. Jun 27, 2020 at 9:07 AM
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    100% why I bought mine. I started off rebuilding foxes at a bicycle shop when I was 16. There ease of building and history of performance, at speed, is what made me buy them in the first place.


    Also a salt belter here. I just drown mine in t9. Keeps it to only light surface oxidation
     
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    Sounds like the nitrogen gas fox shocks on snowmobiles i've had. Between the shock being blown, or leaking seals i've never had great luck with them for more that a few rides. Installed ohlins on an older indy snowmobile that i raced ovals with...never had an issue the entire season. Even the ryde fx shocks held up way better on the trail sled. Its too bad neither of those two companies is making shocks for sleds anymore.
     
  17. Jun 29, 2020 at 3:09 PM
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    Here is where they end up leaking

    upload_2020-6-29_17-9-0.jpg
     
  18. Jun 29, 2020 at 3:16 PM
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    Rotate them out so they're not hitting the shock mount.

    .
     
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    Well I can see why they leak after time. Any amount of vibration and the shock tower will come in contact with the hose.
     
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    They didn't start in this position. For some reasons they work their own way back to the side. There is nothing preventing them from turning.
     
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