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Frame restoration - did it myself

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by SeNate, Mar 23, 2015.

  1. Mar 23, 2015 at 6:10 PM
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    SeNate

    SeNate [OP] Well-Known Member

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    Satoshi Grill (HomerTaco), Ambiguous' headlights, refinished my frame with POR-15 after half a week of prep and rust removal
    I have received several PM's over a few months asking me questions about this, so I thought I would make a post :)

    I got tired of looking at the super rusted frame, so I decided to do something about it.

    Tools:
    Air powered mini needle-scaler
    Angle grinder + wire wheel
    Klean Strip 'Prep & Etch' (phosphoric acid)
    POR-15 Gloss Black !! IF YOU GET THIS ON YOUR SKIN, YOU WILL WEAR IT FOR 2 WEEKS !!
    Box of Neoprene Gloves from Harbor Freight
    Tyvek full body suit including hood.
    Face shield + goggles
    Respirator for chemicals (absolute must)

    Here's what it looked like before I started.
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    I first chipped away all the surface rust with the needler - I don't have a video of it, but here is a good example of exactly how it works. The best part of this is that you can hit areas that look perfectly fine, and it will reveal the rust underneath. If you were using a chisel or hammer or something, you might just completely ignore sections that look ok. The needler does not hurt areas that have no rust, it's gentle enough that you can use it on your palm. I would sometimes hit areas that looked like normal frame that were near rust, and a huge chunk would pop off and I would see rust underneath. Amazing tool.

    https://youtu.be/yJRf6zrulC4

    Once that was done, I used a wire wheel to grind down even more of the exposed areas - keep in mind POR-15 likes surface rust (not flaky obviously). So you probably don't have to do this, as long as it's rough surface rust that isn't coming off.

    I then went around the frame and applied Phospohoric Acid (Prep & Etch) This turns the surface rust silver, and "etches" the metal for painting. First image shows what the acid does to rust.
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    WARNING: Wear a full suit and a respirator, this stuff is in a harmful concentration. Also, be careful and avoid painted areas (shouldn't be hard)
    After this was done, I rinsed it down and let it dry. These silver areas flash rusted, which is fine.
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    I then applied POR-15 in 2 total coats. This is going to take you some time, and I recommend 1 inch foam brushes, as it goes on super smooth and doesn't leave lines. Here is the wet paint.
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    Here is what she looks like now, and still looks exactly like this 6 months later.

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    I have taken a hammer to this paint 6 months after, and it is solid. POR-15 does not disappoint - IF you do the prep. I see too many people just spray it on over flaky rust and then get mad when it peels off.

    EDIT: Note - POR-15 breaks down in direct sunlight. Spots that are always in direct sunlight should be hit with a top coat while POR-15 is still tacky. For me, this was the areas next to the wheels. Reflected sunlight doesn't count, I mean the kind of beam that would give you a tan. Other than that, the stuff is bullet-proof.

    If you have any questions, shoot.
     
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  2. Mar 23, 2015 at 6:24 PM
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    DoorDing

    DoorDing Intentionally obtuse

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    good job
     
  3. Mar 23, 2015 at 6:27 PM
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    Awesome guide. Thank you for posting this again man!
     
  4. Mar 23, 2015 at 6:43 PM
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    Great job with the POR15. That stuff wears like iron - you'll be rust free for a long time.
     
  5. Mar 23, 2015 at 6:46 PM
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    I'd take a look inside the front, boxed frame sections. The early model years lacked plugs in the front wheel wells and slop would get blasted through the holes. I've been fogging those sections with Fluid Film. I don't think you'd be able to apply much paint in there.
     
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  6. Mar 23, 2015 at 7:02 PM
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    SeNate

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    Satoshi Grill (HomerTaco), Ambiguous' headlights, refinished my frame with POR-15 after half a week of prep and rust removal
    Right you are. I actually grabbed some Eastwood frame filler and rust converter. It's black and it seems to cover the inside evenly, though I didn't include that in this, maybe I should.

    Thanks for checking up on me, because who knows.
     
  7. Mar 23, 2015 at 7:05 PM
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    SeNate

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    Satoshi Grill (HomerTaco), Ambiguous' headlights, refinished my frame with POR-15 after half a week of prep and rust removal
    You're welcome :)
     
  8. Mar 24, 2015 at 12:42 AM
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    This is on my to-do list. Thanks for the excellent guide.
     
  9. Mar 24, 2015 at 8:42 AM
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    I use Corban-35, If it is good for aircraft use it works great for auto. lol
     
  10. Mar 24, 2015 at 8:50 AM
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    Always been happy with POR-15 when I've used it.. Water thin - but works like a champ.
     
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    Wow that's dedication to your Tacoma!Looks good and thanks for the learning experience!
     
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  13. Mar 24, 2015 at 12:54 PM
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    You're welcome. I love my truck, even if it is 10 years old now, I'll always take care of it as much as I can. I researched this a lot before I started, and I noticed there really wasn't much out there on people doing frame restorations while the frame was still attached to the truck. It's easy to do it when it is sitting out by itself and you have full access to every part of it.

    This is definitely a lot of work.
     
  14. Mar 30, 2015 at 2:58 PM
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    That is a sweet project and now you got me wanting to do the same.

    I'd like to pull the bed to make this easier but I have a spray in bed liner. Does anyone know if the bed can be raised without damaging the liner?

    Either way I'm pretty sure the liner guys can re-treat the bolt locations.
     
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    Planning on doing the same this summer. Good stuff
     
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    Im going to be doing about the same, and my frame looks allot like yours, maybe a bit more rusted, defiantly not less. I picked up the needle scalier you mentioned, and got a small hand held gravity feed sand blaster for tight areas.

    I have a few questions if you don't mind. First up, what top coat did you use for the areas that were in sunlight? Next did you take anything apart during this, or get into all the nooks and crannies you could with it together, and did you do anything inside the engine compartment where you can see suspension and frame sections (least i think it is suspension) and next did you do anything for the inside of the frame, cause if not, i found this, and plan to use it on mine when i do what you did http://www.eastwood.com/internal-frame-coating-w-spray-nozzle-qt.html and last, about how much time did all of that take you, i will assume you did remove wheels, and skid plates as you went, i haven't tried this, but does the gas tank skid plate come off without the tank dropping?
     
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    Very nicely done. Is that coating a dirt magnet? Fluid Film attracted so much dirt and dust when I used it.
     
  19. Jul 31, 2015 at 6:16 PM
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    :amen:Nice, I did body work in Massachusetts for many years and this is the way to go.
     
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    I might have some questions for you here soon. Someone bumped me at a relatively low speed, and it caused the bumper to take a chip out of the left rear panel just under the tail light. That area is now rusted where the paint came off. I'd love to learn how to fix it (I can get the paint easily enough).
     
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