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Frame restoration - did it myself

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by SeNate, Mar 23, 2015.

  1. Nov 7, 2016 at 9:03 PM
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    andrew8404

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  2. Nov 7, 2016 at 10:57 PM
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    That sucks. Any type of coating like that is just a preventative barrier and isn't supposed to be applied over rust. If they do it does exactly zero other than hide the cancer while it spreads. :(
     
  3. Nov 8, 2016 at 12:44 PM
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    ...we'll get there.
    OP, when you coated your frame...how did you choose what to paint over and what to tape off? I'm thinking bolt heads specifically. Just my luck i'd coat a bolt thinking i'd never need to remove it, then the thing connected to it would break the next day.

    my inclination would be to tape off more than I think i have to...better safe than sorry. wondering how you approached it.
     
  4. Nov 8, 2016 at 12:54 PM
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    I'd prep and paint over everything including bolts. If you wanted to preserve them I'd take them out (such as suspension fasteners perhaps), coat under where they sit, chase and then anti-sieze or grease the threads when you put it back in.

    If they have to be removed for some reason I'd rather disturb an intact coating and do a touch up than to leave existing rust and new edges where moisture and corrosion are going get starts.

    The point of paint and anti-corrosion coatings are to seal the metal to deny rust oxygen and moisture. It's usually corners, edges and scratches where rusts gets it's start.
     
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  5. Nov 8, 2016 at 2:15 PM
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    ...we'll get there.

    good points dave - anyone ever remove POR-15 before? my guess is that a dremel with wire brush would be good enough to get good contact with a socket again...but, haven't tried it.
     
  6. Nov 11, 2016 at 8:17 AM
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    I'd have killed to have rust only that bad. I traded my 2003 sr5 4x Tuesday (miss you, old paint) for a 2015. great job, tho'.
     
  7. Dec 29, 2016 at 1:49 PM
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    i have been using fluid film for two years now- seems to work well
     
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  8. Dec 31, 2016 at 1:34 PM
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  9. Jan 9, 2017 at 5:37 PM
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    Did you get on the inside of the frame that runs along the sides? I find it very difficult to properly remove the rust and get por15 in there.
     
  10. Jan 22, 2017 at 7:29 PM
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    Satoshi Grill (HomerTaco), Ambiguous' headlights, refinished my frame with POR-15 after half a week of prep and rust removal
    I did get the inside of the frame along the entire truck, until it boxes in at the front and you cant reach in. When I got to that point, I used a rattle can full of this frame coating and rust converting stuff that you get a big long bendy straw with so you can get all the areas. I forget the name just now but I'll remember it later I'm sure haha. Needle scaler worked fine to get the rust on the inside of the frame, just get the miniature one and not the full size 2 handed one.
     
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  11. Jan 22, 2017 at 7:42 PM
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    With a foam brush, paint the outside of the frame with wheel bearing grease and spray biodegradable motor oil inside the frame and body panels. repeat grease treatment every two to three years and oil treatment every one to two years. we live in the rust belt. One friend has every car and truck he has ever owned, some up to 40 years old and they are totally rust free. I trade my cars when they are ten to twelve years and have NEVER had any rust areas for decades in any car or truck. Rust maintenance is a yearly inspection and treatment.

    The oil spray takes 20 minutes tops and it treats already rusty areas and stops it dead. The newer biodegradable products makes the treatment safe, effective, easy and cheap. You don't need expensive material, just a dedicated garden sprayer. The biodegrade.motor oil is 6 to 9 bucks per car or truck for three quarts and a tin of red grease is cheap. Paint ? You can never get the frame factory clean to make painting as effective as oil and grease treatments. oil literally creeps more effectively then paint to get to areas that are not directly accessible. Unless you completely remove the frame, you can never do as an effective job that motor oil does in hidden crevices and where welds are which is the biggest rust prone areas.

    Oil and grease works simply because they are each an insulator which helps keep water out and stops rust where paint is more pourus. You put dielectric grease on your battery terminals for the same reason, to insulate and protect from corrosion.
     
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  12. Jan 22, 2017 at 7:57 PM
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    If I ever get a new vehicle I will definitely be using fluid film on the frame. I hated the look of mine, so I did all this work, and it was absolutely worth it.
     
  13. Jan 26, 2017 at 8:31 PM
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    Satoshi Grill (HomerTaco), Ambiguous' headlights, refinished my frame with POR-15 after half a week of prep and rust removal
    I got a recall note about the leafsprings possibly snapping. I have to make the time to take it in though. I'd probably just buy aftermarket leafs, do this treatment on the frame (unless its got actual holes in it and cracks) and then call it a day.
     
  14. Jan 26, 2017 at 8:32 PM
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    Satoshi Grill (HomerTaco), Ambiguous' headlights, refinished my frame with POR-15 after half a week of prep and rust removal
    I have to ask, why come to this forum if you hate Toyota so much? Do you just want to warn people about them? Mine is 12 years old now, and it runs and looks great. There is an odometer thread with people posting over 500k miles, saying they only replaced basic things and did normal maintenance. Sooooo, are you just making shit up?
     
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  15. Jan 27, 2017 at 6:48 PM
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    Wow! Definitely appreciate this! I went thru the whole frame recall (wrote about it here: tacomaproblems.com) and will definitely be using this as a guide for prolonging the life of the new frame! Thanks!
     
  16. Jan 27, 2017 at 6:51 PM
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    Shouldn't need to if you are able keep up with maintenance.
     
  17. Jan 28, 2017 at 12:40 AM
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    Satoshi Grill (HomerTaco), Ambiguous' headlights, refinished my frame with POR-15 after half a week of prep and rust removal
    I would agree that it shouldn't be necessary if you have a pretty new frame. I'd use fluid film on a frame in good shape, where my procedure was to bring it back from being ugly. Thanks for the positive message either way :)
     
  18. Jan 28, 2017 at 9:00 PM
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    Uh go look at all the recall threads. I wish I made this shit up. Leaf springs (breaking and bending) and frames. Just search a few pages and you will find tons of common problems on these trucks. Bed bolts. Interior lighting. Dtrl that melt the housings. Squeeky windows. Weak bed. Tailgate that bends. Just a few off the top of my head. I bet you can double it.
     
  19. Jan 28, 2017 at 9:24 PM
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    You really should sell that piece of $&%# TRD Sport and buy a better vehicle. I'm sure ya can since a smart guy like you cant possibly be upside down in a 2011 truck. Nobody gets upside down in a five or six year old vehicle especially when they are known pieces of $&%#.
     
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