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Front CV Axle | Reboot Question

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by wourkrsd, Jun 4, 2020.

  1. Jun 4, 2020 at 3:51 PM
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    wourkrsd

    wourkrsd [OP] Well-Known Member

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    Hi All,

    So I did a front end rebuild/refresh on my 2000 Taco a few months back. Part of that refresh involved putting in new aftermarket CV Axels. For background I bought it used and don't know the previous maint./repair history, so as I find parts on sale, I pick them up and have slowly been refreshing the truck...BTW it's super rewarding to replace a few things here-n-there and then go..."oh wow, that's how its suppose to fell/drive.."

    Anyway back to my questions:
    1) Are these OEM Axels? If not then I won't even bother rebooting them.
    2) If these are OEM why don't I have a snap-ring on/in front of the Inner Tripod Joint?
    2a) If this is normal, then how do I remove the tripod joint sans-snap ring?

    Thanks!

    IMG_5753.jpg IMG_5749.jpg IMG_5751.jpg IMG_5752.jpg
     
  2. Jun 4, 2020 at 4:20 PM
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    Had the same problem.
    Release and slide down the axle the exposed retaining clip. Then press down the tulip a little. This will expose a round wire ring clip that you then remove. Then the tulip will press off the end of the shaft.
    This ring clip isn't shown in the FSM...kind of a FSM typo.

    If you plan to or have a suspension lift this mod has worked very well for me and probably many others.
    https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/boot-slide-mod-no-more-blowing-cv-boots.146070/
     
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  3. Jun 4, 2020 at 4:30 PM
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    So if I'm understanding you correctly I need to release-n-slide down (NOT Remove?) this Clip?
    IMG_5751 (1).jpg
     
  4. Jun 4, 2020 at 4:33 PM
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    Also @btu44, when you reassembled did the tripod mount back on the axel flush like my (2nd photo 1st post) or should the snap ring be exposed upon reassembly?

    Hope that makes sense? Thanks!
     
  5. Jun 4, 2020 at 5:26 PM
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    Those are OEM axles. If you are going to do the boot stretch mod, slide the clip down as that's what will restrain the boot from sliding up. If not, just mutilate that little shit, get it out of there and use the new one that comes with the boot kit.

    I lied, you still have to take the clip off if you do the mod. Otherwise, you won't be able to get the new boot on.

    You may have to tap the tulip down to expose the top clip. I had to anyway.
     
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  6. Jun 4, 2020 at 7:32 PM
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    Yes, the tulip is a light press fit so you could use a large socket to tap it down. The hardest part for me is get that damn clip expanded enough to slip over the splines. I've tried 3 different tools and it's always been difficult. Next time I may just carefully cut it off with a Dremel.
     
  7. Jun 4, 2020 at 7:40 PM
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    That clip shouldn't be such a big deal. I had to modify an expander so it would get a good bite on the ends. F that clip!
     
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  8. Jun 4, 2020 at 8:27 PM
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    You could be right. Maybe it's the retainer clip on the rear axle I'm thinking of. That one gets me saying F that clip many times LoL.
     
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  9. Jun 4, 2020 at 8:58 PM
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    This right here. FSM doesn't show it right. I just rebooted by cv axles last weekend and wasted 2 hours of my life fighting to slide that thing down the shaft with both cheap and expensive snap ring pliers (and everything else on hand) without mutilating the tulip and splines around it. I finally gave up and ordered the right tool. (https://www.amazon.com/Stanley-Proto-J250G-9-Inch-Horseshoe/dp/B00209ETSS)

    It's a lock ring, not a snap ring. And once I got those lock ring pliers in my hand, it took one entire second to liberate that son of a bitch.

    After, tapping the tulip down with a large socket to get the hidden snap ring off was a breeze, same with using a punch around the tulip base to tap it back up and off the splines.

    Those pliers aren't cheap, but worth every penny to me.
     
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    I have old "lock" ring pliers similar to those that I used. I had to file a sharp edge on the end for it to bite the ring. Maybe I had some super hardened lock rings. They sure turned a quick job into something worth cussing over.
     
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  11. Jun 5, 2020 at 8:53 AM
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    Thanks Everyone,

    I've got those pliers on order and then I can finish up the reboot. TW users to the rescue once again :)
     
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    Great post. I never did it . always just replaced the axle but now I want to rebuild my OEM ones because the new non oem ones I got, failed pretty quickly. I am planning on using black tie wraps instead of steel band. No rusting and I think it will last . Has any one used them for this application and did they last? Thanks ahead for all who reply.
     
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    I would probably avoid plastic zip ties. If you wanted, and were able to get them tight enough, you could use stainless zip ties.

    When I did mine, the boot clamps we're surprisingly loose on the tulip side after clamping down. I had to put 3/4 of the old clamp under the new.
     
  14. Jun 5, 2020 at 11:20 AM
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    Here's my unsolicited 2 cents ;)

    Good steel bands shouldn't be a significant rust issue.

    In talking to the guys at YotaMasters re: OEM vs aftermarket CVs -- OEM r stronger but not to a difference that most DD or casual off-roaders would benefit. For me buying an OEM reboot kit + my time ($) to replace the boots = financial wash to OEM or not.

    So I've put in lifetime warranty CVs from Orielly's and I'm rebooting my OEMs as trail backups. When the Orielly's CVs fail I'll swap in my rebooted OEMs and exchange the Orielly's for new ones...and so the cycle will continue (in my mind, as I'll probably buy another truck b4 really needing multiple CV replacements). As a side note (I'm not well educated on Toyota specifically) most car mfg.s stop supporting replacement parts ~the 25 year mark as its just no longer profitable. You may already notice certain parts we gen 1'er would like are no longer made...ever think that maybe new OEM seat foam would help out those tragically underwhelming old seats...well Toyota doesn't make them anymore. etc etc

    I own this gen 1 not because $$ but because I love the size, the simplicity, financially a non-depreciating asset, and the ease to amateur wrench on it. The last one for me is huge as wrenching is more an enjoyable pastime than a chore...so much to learn...so many cool new tools to acquire...and the peace of mind to go backcountry wheeling knowing you understand the basics of your own vehicle to mitigate off-road booboos.

    So Toyota if you're listening...bring back a TRUE small utilitarian off-road pickup truck so us gen 1ers don't have to hang on by the fingertips to the last of great mini-trucks.
     
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    I completely agree, but I wouldn't hold your breath. For some stupid reason, most people seem to want bigger, and bigger vehicles.
     

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