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Frontrunner Bed Rack and Bed Rail Weight capacity

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016+)' started by D-CM, Jul 8, 2018.

  1. Jul 10, 2018 at 1:33 PM
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    Wow, great info from the last three posts. Thanks everyone!
     
  2. Jul 10, 2018 at 2:59 PM
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    I fought with toyota on this years ago after a cleat broke and the dirtbike handle bar went right thru the fender. They fought me at every turn. I weighed the bike. With weigh scale pics and papers and built up a 45* pvc pipe contraption and loaded the bike with bike strapped to show that the straps were not at an angle greater than 45* all said and done they paid half the repair. Which at the end of the day was solid by toyota but a huge waste of my time (months)
     
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  3. Jul 11, 2018 at 2:29 PM
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    Okay, so I got some new info from Alyssa at Frontrunner. She said that the attachment I mentioned in one of my earlier posts, that helps secure the rack using the walls of the truck bed, is in pre-production but that they are selling the ones they have. They are $40 for a pair of them. Kinda pricey especially for something that, in my opinion, should have been put on the rack arms in the first place. But hey, it’s a cool rack and at least there is an option.
     
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  4. Dec 20, 2018 at 5:01 AM
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  5. Feb 7, 2019 at 8:11 PM
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    Thinking of getting the frontrunner bed rack. Any feedback is greatly appreciated. Seeing some just using the load bars. How are they holding up with RTT on? I currently have a CVT but thinking of switching to gofsr high country
     
  6. Feb 7, 2019 at 8:31 PM
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    I’ve got Frontrunner bars but I also had extended brackets made so that my RTT would sit at cab height.
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  7. Feb 7, 2019 at 9:27 PM
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    Man I dig those extra brackets...takes some of the load off the bed rails which was my primary issue with the front runner rack. No one at front runner would guarantee me that the rails could support the weight of a roof top tent plus body weight, and off road abuse. So I went with a different rack. Wish frontrunner offered brackets similar to the ones you have. If they did I’d have one right now along with tons of their rack accessories
     
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    What kind of brackets are those?
     
  9. Feb 7, 2019 at 10:21 PM
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    Just some I had made by a machine shop.
     
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    The bed rails are not designed to hold up the weight of a RTT and other stuff attached to a bed rack. The fasteners holding the bed rails in are what, 6mm? It would be even worse if you have that weight trying to shift as the frame and bed are flexing off-road. The rails should be used to prevent a load from sliding around, not supporting its entire weight. All truck frames and beds flex at least every so slightly and the design of the Tacoma/Tundra frames and bed flex more than most other manufacturers. If the rack has a high torsional rigidity while the bed does not the bed will be turned into a bushing and fail.
     
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  11. Feb 7, 2019 at 10:42 PM
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    That’s exactly why I didn’t go with their rack. Problem is that they seem to market it as being an option for an RTT but then shy away from a direct answer when someone asks the question

    EDIT: I’m not trying to bad mouth them either because I think frontrunner otherwise has great products. I just think with a few simple modifications, they could rectify the problem. And btw, those extra brackets they came out with last year don’t solve the issue. But I do like the brackets that’s Captqc had fabricated
     
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    Still having ZERO issues with this set up, glad people are commenting how it'll never work, means my truck will remain unique! This is my issue with this forum, 3 posts in a row earlier saying how much people love this set up along with sources of other cases where this set up was used successfully followed directly by people that have never used it saying how it would never work...
     
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  13. Feb 12, 2019 at 12:54 PM
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    Ya mine is holding up fine - zero issues. Not the exact same frontrunner rack, but attached the same way.
     
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    I'm more than happy to be your issue with this forum if disagreeing with you is all it takes. Define what you mean by zero issues? How long have you had it? What trails do you go on? I don't have to use a specific product to know that it's not necessarily the best idea. Here are some cracked beds for you:

    Tundra beds

    Tacoma bed

    Tacoma bed

    Tacoma bed
     
  15. Feb 13, 2019 at 4:26 AM
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    The whole debate here is whether or not the weight of a RTT on a bed rack that is solely supported by the bed rails is more likely to fail and cause damage than a rack that is supported by the bedsides and rails. In all 3 of your Tacoma examples, damage was caused by a rack or hard top that was supported by the bed sides, not just the rails. You proved that carrying additional weight over the bed can cause damage due to the extra stress - something that I think we all know is a possibility. The examples don't show that the bed rails are the weak point that will fail if used as the sole mounting point for the weight - which it what we are all talking about.

    Now granted I haven't taken my tent on any crazy trails, but I haven't experienced any cracking, bending or sagging in the bed sides or rails since I've had mine mounted.
     
  16. Feb 13, 2019 at 7:48 AM
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    Well, if you think it's a great idea to mount all of that weight solely to the bed rails best of luck to you. If you think that the bed rails are stronger than the bed so be it.
     
  17. Feb 13, 2019 at 9:16 AM
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    I don't think it's any worse of an idea than mounting all that weight over the bed to begin with. I'll keep on keeping on.
     
  18. Feb 13, 2019 at 10:09 AM
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    You are probably right on that
     
  19. Feb 28, 2019 at 7:42 PM
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    Thank you for this post! I’ve got a 2017 that I want to mount some over the bed bars to, Front Runner load bars caught my eye but I was concerned with the same issue with the rails.

    Seeing that there are several people who haven’t had any issues with this system directly on their bed rails, I think I’ll go ahead and go with it. If anything does happen I can always have the mounting brackets modified with the lip to go over the bed.
     
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  20. Jun 19, 2019 at 4:06 PM
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    Did you make those brackets yourself? Or did you buy them?
     
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