Gay's in the Military, What the troops think about Civilians making that decision.

Why is gay treated like some kind of disease? That is what wrong with our society today, we keep away from people that have handicaps, people that are different than us, people that have diseases. As a child when we say " mommy, why is that persons leg missing ", and we say " Shhhhh, dont say that outloud " we all of a sudden have a thought that it is bad. Just like with gays, they are still human, they are all around you.

I was just like all of you who disagree, until I opened my eyes to the real world that we are living in. Some people are straight, some are bi, and some are gay. they are still people and should be treated as such.

We overlook so many rights that we have all day long... We have the right to say " yeah im straight ", but gays dont have the right to say " Im gay" without getting their asses kicked in the military? WTF... they are just like you, no different, they want to serve the country, and im pretty sure gays didn't join the military to find a mate... People need to think before they act or open their mouths because some people just sound plain stupid...

thats just my .2 cents. take it or leave it for what it is..

Thanks

 

Maybe we can make Suicide Bombers a rate in the Military too?

No, thats F*cked up... My bad... I'm sorry Lord..........

 

i was raised southern baptist. and i'll be honest, i hated anyone that wasn't like me in high school. i hated gay people (among others) with a passion. but once you mature you realize that everyone's guts look the same. thats my point, this is the kind of irrational hatred you seen in high school or middle school when your too young and full of hormones to know better.

 

reminds me of a joke...

"Why does the Navy stencil their names on their asses?"

"So the Marines know who they're fucking..."

 

Countries that allow homosexuals to serve in the military


Argentina

As of 2009, the Argentine government has officially ended the ban on gays in the military.[4]
Australia

The Commonwealth of Australia policies are to allow gay men and lesbians to serve openly.[5] Attention has been drawn to dual American–Australian citizen Norbert Basil MacLean III, who served in the United States Navy from 1989–1994 but was court-martialled on what he claims were trumped-up charges due to his sexuality and harassment from a superior officer. MacLean's harassment complaint against a superior officer for a wrongful demotion in rank was eventually found meritorious by the Assistant Secretary of the Navy and he was reinstated to his previous rank. MacLean's case pre-dates the Don't Ask, Don't Tell policy. Had he served in the Royal Australian Navy he would have been permitted to serve as an openly gay man. MacLean's case in the United States has resulted in the introduction of the Equal Justice for Our Military Act of 2009, HR 569 in the 111th Congress. HR 569 relates to granting the Supreme Court of the United States the ability to review American court-martial cases once those cases have concluded review by the military courts. On September 12, 2008, the Los Angeles Daily Journal reported in a front page article that MacLean has applied to join the Royal Australian Air Force.[6]
Austria

Austria permits homosexuals to serve openly.[7]
Belgium

Belgium permits homosexuals to serve openly.[7]
Bermuda

The Bermuda Regiment does not discriminate on grounds of sexual orientation, as it is formed by random lottery-style conscription. Officially, members of the Regiment are prohibited from discriminating against or harassing gay soldiers;[8] such activities, however, are tolerated by officers, to the extent that one conscript described the Regiment as "the most homophobic environment that exists".[9]
Brazil

There is no law forbidding gays from serving in the military. Libidinous acts are not allowed.[10]
Canada

Main article: LGBT policy in the Canadian military
As of 1992, lesbians, gays and bisexuals are allowed to openly serve in the military.
Czech Republic

The Czech Republic allows homosexuals to serve openly.[7]
Denmark

Denmark allows homosexuals to serve openly.[7]
Estonia

Estonia allows homosexuals to serve openly.[7]
Finland

Finland allows homosexuals to serve openly.[7]
France

France allows homosexuals to serve openly.[7]
Germany

The German Bundeswehr ruled that it is forbidden to discriminate based on sexual orientation. The "Working Committee of Homosexual Employees in the Military Forces"[11] is the organization that represents the interests of gay men and lesbians in the armed forces. Heterosexuals and homosexuals alike are allowed to engage in sexual activity while in the military service as long as it does not interfere with the performance of their duties. Lesbian and gay soldiers are also entitled to enter civil unions as defined by Germany's domestic "partnership" law.[12]
Ireland

Ireland allows homosexuals to serve openly.[7]
Israel

Israel Defense Forces policies allow gay men and lesbians to serve openly and without discrimination or harassment due to actual or perceived sexual orientation.[13] This was put into effect in 1993 after an IDF reserves officer testified before the Knesset claiming that his rank had been revoked, and that he had been barred from researching sensitive topics in military intelligence, solely because of his sexual identity. Homosexuals serve openly in the military, including special units, without any discrimination.[14][15] Moreover, gays in the IDF have additional rights, such as the right to take a shower alone if they want to. According to a University of California, Santa Barbara study,[16] a brigadier general stated that Israelis show a "great tolerance" for gay soldiers. Consul David Saranga at the Israeli Consulate in New York, who was interviewed by the St. Petersburg Times, said, “It's a non-issue. You can be a very good officer, a creative one, a brave one, and be gay at the same time.”[14]
Italy

The Armed Forces of Italy cannot deny men or women of homosexual orientation to serve within their ranks, as this would be a violation of Constitutional rights. However, much prejudice about homosexuals still exists within the Italian armed forces, so that they generally decide to hide their sexual orientation.[citation needed] In the past, homosexual conduct was grounds for being discharged from the Italian armed forces for reason of insanity, and feigning homosexuality was a very popular way to obtain medical rejection and skip draft.[citation needed]
Lithuania

Lithuania allows homosexuals to serve openly.[7]
Luxembourg

Luxembourg allows homosexuals to serve openly.[7]
Malta

Malta allows gay and lesbian people to serve openly in the armed forces. According to the Armed Forces of Malta, a number of openly gay people serve in the AFM, and the official attitude is one of "live and let live", where "a person’s postings and duties depend on their qualifications, not their sexual orientation".[17]
The Netherlands

In 1974, the Netherlands was the first country to ban discrimination against gays in the military.[18]
New Zealand

In New Zealand it is legal for gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender persons to serve in the military.[19][20]
Norway

Norway allows homosexuals to serve openly.[7]
Peru

Until December 2009, Peru had a ban on openly gay people in the armed forces. However, in December 2009, the Supreme Court of Peru held that sexual orientation cannot be a requirement for entry into the police force or the military. The Government accepted the decision.[21]
Philippines

The Philippine government have officially ended, as of 2009, the ban on gays in the military.[4]
Romania

Gays are allowed to serve openly in the Romanian army. According to the Ministry of Defence's recruitment policy, "it is the right of every Romanian citizen to take part in the military structures of our country, regardless of their sexual orientation."[22]
Russia

See also: LGBT rights in Russia
Before 1993, homosexual acts between consenting males were against the law in Russia,[23] and homosexuality was considered a mental disorder until adoption of ICD-10 in 1999,[24] but even after that military medical expertise statute was in force to continue considering homosexuality a mental disorder which was a reason to deny homosexuals to serve in the military. In 2003, a new military medical expertise statute was adopted; it said people “who have problems with their identity and sexual preferences” can only be drafted during war times.[25] However, this clause contradicted another clause of the same statute which stated that different sexual orientation should not be considered a deviation. This ambiguity was resolved by the Major-General of the Medical Service who clearly stated that new medical statute “does not forbid people of non-standard sexual orientation from serving in the military.”[26] Thereby, as of July 1, 2003 (2003 -07-01)[update], homosexual people in Russia can serve in the military, even openly — there is no official policy coercing them to hide their sexual orientation.
[edit] Slovenia

Slovenia allows homosexuals to serve openly, but homosexuality is still listed as a psychiatric disease.[7]
[edit] South Africa

South Africa allows homosexuals to serve openly.[7]
[edit] Spain

Gays are allowed to serve openly in the Spanish Army. As of 2009, after the case of Aitor G.R, the courts also ruled that transgendered individuals are also permitted to serve in the military.[27]
[edit] Sweden

Sweden allows homosexuals to serve openly.[7]
Switzerland

Switzerland's military policies also allow for gay men and lesbians to serve openly without discrimination or harassment due to actual or perceived sexual orientation.[12]
United Kingdom

The United Kingdom's policy is to allow gay men and lesbians to serve openly, and discrimination on a sexual orientation basis is forbidden.[12] It is also forbidden for someone to pressure LGBT people to come out. All personnel are subject to the same "no-touching" rules. Since 2008, military personnel have been permitted to attend Gay Pride marches in uniform.[28]
Uruguay

Gays were prohibited from serving in the Uruguayan armed forces under the 1973-1985 military dictatorship, however this prohibition was lifted in 2009 when a new decree was signed by Defence Minister Jose Bayardi which provided that that sexual orientation would no longer be considered a reason to prevent people from entering the armed forces[29].

 

Countries that disallow homosexuals from serving in the military

• Cuba
• China
• Egypt
• Greece[1]
• Iran
• Jamaica
• North Korea
• Pakistan

• Saudi Arabia
• Serbia
• Singapore
• South Korea[2]
• Syria
• Turkey[3]
• Venezuela
• Yemen

 

Your pretty mature then for your age. A good many don't come to the same conclusion.
Irrational anger towards sports teams is a good example. Most of us never mature to the degree where we like some teams. Hey, there all the same. Just a bunch of guys in uniforms, but we still can't stand to see certain colors that aren't the ones we already like.

 

forgot one.

 

how did you know i was refering to the US?? well i was haha, valid point on that thanks

 

Who cares 11 pages on a toyota regarding where one person prefers to stick there penis. Sex should be between the individuals involved and I personally dont need to hear of conquests in the bedroom no mater what sex is involved. Guys stop talkin about how much snatch your pullin gays dont talk of all the ass your getting and we will all be ok .

Rangers Lead The Way!!!!

 

they would be the 69th battalion

 

haha! i like that analogy

CLEMSON TIGERS RULE!

 

You know I regularly see naked women in my job and some are very attractive yet I have never lost control to the point of forcing myself on them. These shower arguments are really pathetic IMO.