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Gen 3 Towing Thread

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016+)' started by TacoJonn, Jan 28, 2016.

  1. May 29, 2018 at 12:09 PM
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    deminimis

    deminimis Well-Known Member

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    Ha! Nailed it.
     
  2. May 29, 2018 at 6:44 PM
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    I towed around 5500lbs 3000 miles in a week with my 6-speed manual 2018 TRD off road Tacoma. I used a weight distribution hitch from curt as well as their cheapest brake controller ($35 on e-trailer). The weight dist hitch was a must. I had zero squat with it installed. I drove from Texas to Pennsylvania and back to go to the Carlisle Imports show with my 1970 Opel GT. I followed the owners manual pretty closely. 500 miles in the city without the trailer first to keep varying RPMs. I took it easy and slow for the next 500 miles with the trailer and then hauled ass the rest of the way. 4th gear was the name of the game going up the hills in Arkansas and Tennesee. I occasionally had to place a well-timed 3rd gear to keep from dropping below 75mph. I used 5th gear on areas with a downhill gradient, or flat with no wind. 5th gear can make it up a pretty steep incline, but I only did that once as an experiment. You don't want a huge load on overdrive gears. I never touched 6th the whole trip. A little tip if you want to stay in 4th before a huge hill is to accelerate and get your rpms higher. This engine adores high revs.
    The trip was very comfortable and the truck handled the load wonderfully. My only complaint is that the low end power is terrible. Getting started from a stop on a hill with the trailer is nearly impossible with the manual. I don't like to slip the clutch, so I figured it out after a couple of days. You really have to get moving slowly. If you can get the wheels turning and release the clutch at 700rpm you can slowly get underway with a tinsy bit of gas to keep from lugging.
    Going down the Appalachians was wonderful with the manual. I got great mileage for hours and never touched the brakes. Nashville and St. Louis both suck! The traffic is scary with a trailer.
    I got 12.5 mpg average with a trip average speed of 70mph and lots of stretches of 75+.
    Overall towing with this truck on the highway is leaps and bounds better than my Automatic 2nd gen. It's so much smoother, quieter, comfortable and more powerful (only at highway speed). On the other hand, the second gen kicks butt in traffic, city, and low-end power compared to the 3rd gen.

    Oh I got second place at the car show too:)

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  3. May 29, 2018 at 6:47 PM
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    I tow the X30 with mine.... really not a lot of fun over 55ish. In town tows, it’s totally fine. Not going anywhere quickly though. But since I know you have that badass 5500, you won’t need it for that anyways.

    That being said I will be trading back into an F250.


    (Mines an auto and I haven’t had a single complaint with it)
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  4. May 29, 2018 at 7:17 PM
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    Thanks folks. That's some good news right there.

    In case you're wondering, my Ram is a pain in the arse when it comes to tight quarters (parking lots other than a Wal-Hell, boat ramps, Baja, etc.). A Taco would provide a welcomed addition (sometimes I just want to splash the waverunner). Anyway, thanks again for all the feedback.

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  5. May 30, 2018 at 7:03 PM
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    joestacos

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    Ill give my 2c on this. I pulled a 12ft with 3 quads about a 2 hour drive to pismo. Once reaching SLOs uphill I felt I was battling the weight. As I was driving I could feel the truck was heavy as hell. Personally its not built to haul but I dont do it weekly so it does for nowE73545F2-326C-4DEF-A49B-85F0F0CE9324.jpg
     
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  6. May 30, 2018 at 7:24 PM
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    Nice Opel! You know Duane from Doylestown PA area?

    Good review of a heavy tow as well. Thanks for sharing!
     
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  7. May 30, 2018 at 7:45 PM
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    Hauled a 19’ aluminum boat that weighs aprox 3200#’s including trailer. Surge brakes, and a single axle trailer. I have a 17 OR with bed rack, RTT, sliders, winch and after market front bumper. 100 miles on interstate doing 75 mph no problems. Plenty of power to pass semi trucks and road slugs. My only complaint was the noise from the MT tires. Seems like the boat amplified the already loud MT’s.
     
  8. May 30, 2018 at 8:03 PM
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    Did you inflate your rear tires over your normal pressures to compensate for the extra weight? Weight on MTs will affect the noise quite a bit, just as much as under-inflating them with an empty bed and running them at low pressures.
     
  9. May 30, 2018 at 8:07 PM
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    I did not, will that help with the noise ? My past experiences I’ve hauled with trucks meant to haul things. class a cdl, and driven quite a few 3/4 tons at work. Never adjusted air psi on them so I assumed the same on the taco. But I’ll give it a try next week.
     
  10. May 30, 2018 at 8:21 PM
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    Thanks! Probably Duane Foley (mantascona on the opel gt forum.) I don't think he made it to the carlisle meet this year. I do know him from the opel forum though.
     
  11. May 31, 2018 at 10:05 AM
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    Yeah it should affect it. I see visible "squish" in my sidewall when the bed is heavily loaded or towing on the recommended pressures on the inside of my door. That pressure is perfectly fine for an unloaded truck, but the correct amount of pressure is a function of weight on the tire vs weight rating (roughly).

    Not exact math, but if you're running a load-range E tire, you probably don't want more than 35lbs on a stock tacoma, but if you're towing, the amount of weight on that axle will be higher, and you probably should run them closer to 50 psi.... but probably never 80 psi like a typical load-range E will recommend. A Tacoma, even fully loaded, doesn't have any way to put that much load on a tire rated for 3,500 lbs of load capacity.

    My guess is that if you inflate the rear tires to compensate, you should see near normal noise. There's no direct answer, but the equivalent of doing a "chalk test" would let you know if you're under or over-inflated for your weight
     
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  12. Jun 4, 2018 at 5:25 PM
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    Not sure about everyone....*.I went with this. Allows me to pull the trailer with different vehicles. Unplug the controller from the DC (cig-lighter) and move it from the Tacoma to whatever else. Several people in my family have had them for 3 or so years. So far not a single issue and you don't have to use the cubby hole to permanently mount the controller or mount it elsewhere.

    Expensive and probably NOT for everyone; the P3 is a great box.

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  14. Jun 4, 2018 at 6:31 PM
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    Just for another option: I used this https://www.etrailer.com/multi-prod...oma&hhyear=2018&vehicleid=201860015&hunter=bc. For $60 it wires right in and works flawlessly. Saved my arse and brakes a lot on my 3000-mile road trip! I mounted mine under the dash far to the left. It was easy to reach to use manual input or turn off the unit when I didn't want the extra help. When I don't have a trailer on I simply unplug it and throw it in the console. The wires tuck nicely behind the kick panel in silent slumber crying for the day voltage will bless their strands again.
     
  15. Jun 4, 2018 at 6:48 PM
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    That’s what I’ve been running. I used the mounting plate from ESP to mount it in the cubby to the left of the steering wheel.
     
  16. Jun 4, 2018 at 7:58 PM
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    I went from this...
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    To this...
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    New trailer and new truck.
     
  17. Jun 4, 2018 at 8:30 PM
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    You want the 3031-p adapter. The 3017 has an inadequate sized ground wire, which has caused at least one truck fire (when a controller shorted out, which is rare) we know about on TW. The newer adapter has a beefier separate ground wire.

    Edit: here's one of the posts about it: https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/who-has-the-tekonsha-p3-brake-control-installed.521035/
     
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  18. Jun 6, 2018 at 9:26 AM
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    I’m a newbie, so please forgive me if this is general knowledge, but what is an SSPRO v-2? When I googled it, I found an Astro camera, surveillance software, etc, but nothing that fit the context of your comment. Sounds intriguing, so I’d like to know more. Thanks.
     
  19. Jun 6, 2018 at 9:34 AM
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    Part of the problem is that trailer. If you had a low profile open trailer, it would pull those toys easier.
     
  20. Jun 6, 2018 at 9:44 AM
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    This is a good spot for my first post. I just got a 2016 TRD OR DCLB and towed a Datsun 620 on a uhaul car dolly and it did great. You could tell the weight was back there when stopping and getting up to speed but still had plenty of power on the freeway. I’m loving this truck so far.

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