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Discussion in 'Long Travel Suspension' started by linked2002, Aug 19, 2011.

  1. Oct 22, 2014 at 6:44 AM
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    I have used a few kinds of notchers and always find myself going back to the chop saw method. Used the drill press ones, they take way too long and you go through hole saws fast. Used the giant belt sander ones, they are so noisy and you go through belts fast when doing big projects. I even used a nibbler version. All those things are great if you are doing a large TIG project, or you are repeating a notch 100 times, or you have a huge budget. But man I have just become so proficient with with chop saw and grinder I can put 5 tubes in a roll cage in the same time it takes someone to notch one tube on the dang drill press. Plus the cost of a good chop saw is still far less than anything else. I learned from old school guys and I guess that is one thing that stuck with me.
     
  2. Oct 22, 2014 at 7:11 PM
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    When I was building my sliders I talked to the guys at CBI about how they notch tubes. They said the same thing.

    Do you generally have to notch a tube before bending it? Seems like it might not fit in the saw if its got a big bed.
     
  3. Oct 22, 2014 at 8:02 PM
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    I personally wouldn't notch with a chop saw but that's me. It's not very accurate having the flip the tube to notch the other side but when we notch we do 250 to 500 parts at a time.

    Notching on a bend can be tricky with any machine we notch on bends all the time with ours. If they are really steep I move to the hand plasma and angle grinder to make those.
     
  4. Oct 23, 2014 at 6:55 AM
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    You do all of the bending, then notch the tube. It is one of those things that feels weird when you are first learning how to do it. It takes practice, but once you learn it, is so fast. I think the scary part is removing the sliding clamp and just having to hold the tube in place yourself. It seems a little un-safe when you are first learning, but like anything once you do it a for a while it is 2nd nature.

    When I was working professionally I personally built over 20 tube chassis for sand cars all with the chop saw method. Other than doing the left and right sides, almost every notch is different so it really helps speed things up because your not re-adjusting the notcher every couple minutes. Plus when you build a tube chassis your using 3 or 4 different sizes of tubing so you don't have to adjust for that with a chop saw, just cut and go. We even did 5 full TIG chassis while I was there, all with the chop saw method, so you can be precise, it just takes time and patients.
     
  5. Oct 24, 2014 at 7:34 PM
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  6. Oct 25, 2014 at 12:16 AM
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    That looks pretty bad-ass!
     
  7. Oct 25, 2014 at 7:27 PM
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    i bought this bed cage from another member and have a friend that is going to weld it on any advice on placement. im trying to do it without cutting huge holes in the bed itself.
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  8. Oct 25, 2014 at 7:30 PM
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  9. Oct 26, 2014 at 10:18 AM
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    Wouldn't bother since it can't bend .120 wall dom.
     
  11. Oct 26, 2014 at 10:28 AM
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    What tube would you use for a bumper?
     
  12. Oct 26, 2014 at 10:30 AM
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    .120 wall dom is the standard if you plan on using your truck. For pavement princesses .120 wall HREW will be fine.
     
  13. Oct 26, 2014 at 10:40 AM
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    pavement princess hahaha, so what bender do you recommend for doing a .120 wall dom bumper?
     
  14. Oct 26, 2014 at 10:42 AM
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    Jd2 model 3 or model 32. Find at jd2.com
     
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    JD2 is the best bang for your buck. Buying a bender to build just one bumper might not really be worth it IMO. After buying everything you need you could have a custom one made for less money.
     
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    I built my whole truck with one of those. It's a piece of shit, but it works. I did bend .120 wall DOM with it, but it was hard on it. The trick is to use WD-40 on the die. The biggest problem is the U clamp that holds the tubing into the die. It can't handle the force of .120 wall and bends the bolt. I drilled it out and put a larger grade 8 bolt in and it worked ok. It is very difficult to repeat bend angles, i.e. make two pieces with identical bends. The marks on the die are largely useless, so I made my own marks with a sharpie. When I was done building my cage I gave it away for free.
     
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    I have several projects in mind
     
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    Good to know, I was about to order it :eek: Ill go with the model 3 then
     
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    Ahh that will make it worth it.
     
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