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Glock vs Kimber

Discussion in 'Guns & Hunting' started by extremachn1, Feb 27, 2012.

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Which new CC pistol should I get?

Poll closed Mar 28, 2012.
  1. Glock 26 Gen 4 9mm

    64 vote(s)
    51.2%
  2. Kimber Ultra Carry TLE II .45

    41 vote(s)
    32.8%
  3. Other, state gun and why!

    22 vote(s)
    17.6%
  1. Feb 27, 2012 at 11:33 AM
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    extremachn1

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    Ok, so I am in the market for a new pistol. My current CCW is a S&W M&P 40 compact. I love the gun, its super accurate, and fits me perfect but I want something a little smaller for myself and my girls use when I am on company travel. I also want to be able to change it out to a .22 for fun and fundamentals practice. If I could get a kit for my S&W I wouldnt even bother with another pistol
    I have a revolver already but she dosent like it. This is what I am thinking:

    Glock 26 Gen 4. Its small and a 9mm will be easy for her to shoot, is slim, and hammerless. I can get extended mags for it to fit my hand a little better. Plus I can get a .22 kit easily for it. Plus its a glock.
    http://us.glock.com/products/model/g26gen4

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    Kimber ultra carry II. Its a 45 so kicks harder and not as many rounds. Its a kimber which means its beautiful but customer service is hit and miss. Plus it costs 2-3 times as much.
    http://www.kimberamerica.com/1911/ultra-carry-ii/ultra-tle-ii-lg

    Thoughts and opinions.
     
  2. Feb 27, 2012 at 12:44 PM
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    Get the Glock. The Kimber is ammo sensitive.
     
  3. Feb 27, 2012 at 12:51 PM
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    ive got a glock 27 with the magazine extension for the pinky finger. shoots awesome and conceals really well.
     
  4. Feb 27, 2012 at 12:52 PM
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    A little lift & some extra steel....
    The Glocks are priced well right now & if it's for your girl it will be a better fit than the 45 Kimber.....too much kick.

    PS...just picked up a S&W M&P last week for myself.:D
     
  5. Feb 27, 2012 at 12:53 PM
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    i would say glock too, and as you pointed out kimbers are sexy but for all the reasons you stated, glock
     
  6. Feb 27, 2012 at 1:05 PM
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    I know this isnt one of the choices but are you a sig fan? the sig 220 inn 45 and sig 239 (either 9mm or .40) i think both have conversion barrels to .22 and are easily concealable. I have a sig 239 in 9mm and it is awesome for concealed carry. I am local here in arizona too if you want to check it out just let me know. Plus it is a sig and reliability and customer service are pretty good. Just some food for thought! - sorry for offtopic thread jacking.
     
  7. Feb 27, 2012 at 1:24 PM
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  8. Feb 27, 2012 at 1:25 PM
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    from what ive read the Sig 1911 line is the best buy for the money in 1911 and has the least amount of MIM parts...also Kimbers ive read has really slipped in recent years...

    ive got a Sig 1911 Tac Ops its a slick gun....but personally id just keep carrying the M&P and add the Apex Tactical DCAEK to it... and buy a M&P22 dedicated gun...
     
  9. Feb 27, 2012 at 1:34 PM
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  10. Feb 27, 2012 at 3:49 PM
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    I agree with this, I haven't found a glock yet that feels natural to me.
     
  11. Feb 27, 2012 at 4:02 PM
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    You can't even compare a Kimber to a Glock, they are two very different guns suited to two pretty different purposes. I personally love and have both of them, but for different reasons.

    CCW? Glock 27 Gen 4, done and done. How about we take advantage of years of technology and upgrade to the best of both worlds compromise which is the S&W .40 cal round. Capacity and stopping power, of which the .45 and the 9mm round lack respectively. Have you shot the Glock subcompacts? They are not for everyone due to the "2 finger" design but if you don't plan on making it your daily range gun, who cares. Size, stopping power, and capacity are what you're looking for.

    I agree with the Sig recommendation. Again, I don't have a P238, but look around, you'll find many that claim this is the best CCW of all-time. I have it's bigger brother, and you're hard pressed to find more accurate weapons out of the box. I adore mine. The mechanics of shooting them effectively, much like the 1911 style, take a bit to get used to.

    Another good point, how are you with the 1911 SAO? Could you operate one when it counts? I can almost guarantee you can operate a Glock when it counts!

    I love 1911s. The best gun ever made and they are worth every penny of the $1000+ you'll spend on one. If you've ever carried a de-horned 1911 specifically designed for CCW, they are outstanding. But carrying that gold bar around on my back just killed me! But for CCW only, spend the $398.20...what military/LEO/EMTs get the Glock 27 for...and don't look back. So when you're negotiating a price for your Glock, keep that number in mind when you think you're getting a good deal.

    One last thing, go look at a Glock 23. Compare it to the Glock 27. Some people just can't get passed the size while shooting, but the 23 is ergonomically almost perfect. Fullsize Glocks suck, their Compact is where they make their money, comfortable as all get out. I'd personally spend a $180 and get an upgraded Glock trigger with like a 2.0lb trigger because they're AWESOME, but I'm still not a giant fan of plastic guns.
     
  12. Feb 27, 2012 at 4:14 PM
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    This!
    There are much better choices Glock.
    For concealed carry, get a single stack.
    Kahr is a good choice.
    7 rounds of 9mm will solve any problem 7 rounds of .40 will.
     
  13. Feb 27, 2012 at 4:17 PM
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    I love my 1911, but I would not trust it for defensive situations without at least 500 trouble-free rounds of a particular ammo in the magazines I intend to use.
    I have one magazine that constantly gives me fits.. it's a Chip's Shooting Star (ya, the cheapie). Two work like a champ, and one always seems to have issues.
     
  14. Feb 27, 2012 at 4:17 PM
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    glocks are tried an true and reliable...kimbers are amazing and more comfy and accurate in my opinion .....as a carry id go glock....but id get a .40 or .45 not a fan of 9mm at all
     
  15. Feb 27, 2012 at 4:19 PM
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    btw i carried a kahr cw.40 and it was awesome except for the long hard pull on the trigger ....also if you do look into kahr get the pw not the cw ...its like 200 bucks more but the rifeling and sights are 100% better and more accurate...if i get another kahr ill spend the extra money
     
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    I personally feel like Kahrs are cheaply made, the ones I've shot at least. Don't get me wrong we're comparing sub $500 guns so they're all cheap, but even more so. Out of all of these Glocks have a more consistent trigger pull, as consistent as inconsistent plastic guns are.

    I agree 7 rounds of 9 will work, but I prefer 1 or 2 so I can move on.
     
  18. Feb 27, 2012 at 4:39 PM
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    Nobody has said anything about the Smith and Wesson M&P sub compact. I find these to be reliable accurate and comfortable to shoot and carry.
     
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    My question to you is do you have personal experience with this firearm? I hear people bad mouth Kimbers a lot and most have never shot one. This is not a personal attack.

    I have and CC a Kimber Ultra Carry II. I have shot about 30 different brand/bullet combination thru it and the ONLY failure that I have had was caused by MY failure to hold the gun securely! And that failure was with 230gr ball ammo! I have over 4000 rounds thru my Kimber.

    Now as to the OPer's questions, I love my Kimber. My wife loves my Kimber, but because of carpal tunnel issues she can't shoot it reliably. She carries a S&W M&P 40C and it works great for her. I am considering a M&P 45C for myself as a backup gun. Give your girls a chance and see what they want. My wife picked out her M&P because it fit good, felt good and shot good for her.

    Some people LOVE Glocks. They don't fit me very well. You would be hard pressed to find a gun that can be beat on, abused, and just plain not taken care of and still function like a Glock. A local cop has had his issue Glock 22 (40S&W) for over 6 years and have NEVER cleaned it! He shoots between 100 and 150 rounds per month.
     
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