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Hella 4000 HID CONVERSION

Discussion in 'Lighting' started by WhatThePho?, Feb 25, 2010.

  1. Feb 25, 2010 at 11:33 AM
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    WhatThePho? [OP] Greg Graffin 2016

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    Here's my write up on converting Hella 4000 to HID without any drilling involved. This allows you to use the existing plug that the light came with.
    IMG_3362.jpg

    Materials you will need
    -A soldering gun and solder.
    -shrink tubing or electrical tape.
    -Wire cutter and strippers

    I didn't really take much pictures. I drew a little diagram on how to do it. Hopefully it helps.

    Assuming you are wired off a relay. This is what it should look like.
    IMG_3367.jpg
    Your ballast to your lights has male and female connectors, on the Positive and Negative coming off the ballast and lights.

    Cut the connectors off (cut them as close to the connectors as possible so you will have alot of wire to work with.)

    Now take apart your hella 4000, remove the old light bulb and install your HID bulb (h1). inside the die cast housing you will see your old plug for the halogen bulb. it should be brown and white, cut the ends off and strip them.

    Brown is Negative and White is Positive


    after you installed your bulb into the housing, start soldering. you want to solder the Brown to Black and White To Red, after soldering either shrink wrap any exposed metal on the wire or electrical tape it. when you are done re assemble the lamp.

    IMG_3365.jpg

    Now, granted that you already have the ballast connectors cut and stripped take the Hella harness and strip the blue and brown wire.

    The Blue is Positive and Brown is Negative.


    Solder the Red to Blue and Brown to Black. once done shrink wrap or electrical tape any exposed metal on the wires.


    Now everything is ready to go, your ballast are in a secure spot, go out and enjoy your lights.
     
  2. Feb 25, 2010 at 12:25 PM
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    Thank you... I have two Hella 4000 metal pencil beams with 100 watt halogens and only have seen the drill-a-hole HID converstions.

    Where did you get the HID bulb/ ballast from? What ºK color did you go with? My understanding is to stay in the 4000-5000º range for best ground lighting.
     
  3. Feb 25, 2010 at 12:35 PM
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    WhatThePho? [OP] Greg Graffin 2016

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    I got them from a friend, I recommend DDM ballast (ddmtuning.com) I got 6k it has a blue tint to them, they suck in dust, rain and fog. If I had to do it again I would get 4500 for the outside and 3k for the inside.
     
  4. Mar 1, 2010 at 9:18 AM
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    Thanks... and the Hella 4000 is an H1 bulb type, correct?
     
  5. Mar 1, 2010 at 12:59 PM
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    what HID kit did you use?
     
  7. May 8, 2010 at 7:58 PM
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    Some ebay brand kits. been meaning to buy the ddm 55 watt ballasts.
     
  8. May 8, 2010 at 9:52 PM
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    Thanks for the write up!

    However I think I'm still going to do the Hella 700ff HID conversion because a pair of the 700ffs are ~$75 and a pair of the 4000s are ~$200.
     
  9. Feb 5, 2011 at 8:02 PM
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    Thanks for the write up!!!
     
  10. Feb 5, 2011 at 8:23 PM
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    No problem. Since youre in anahiem let me know if you need help.
     
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    Thanks! I used this to convert my three 4000s to 55w HID. For some reason the third light doesn't fire everytime. It'll flash but not fire occasionally. I swapped the bulb and ballast with a working spare and it still happens. I'm guessing I need more amps for the DDM 55w ballasts. Still gotta figure that out.
     
  12. Feb 8, 2011 at 8:37 PM
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    Thats kinda Funny, I had that same problem too. But Not anymore that I took off the 35 and went 55.

    Also I've notice my ballast not working correctly when wet or after a wash. So much for the water proof claim they got.
     
  13. Mar 29, 2011 at 6:09 PM
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    I think I'm going to go with 55w in the 2 inner lights and 35w on the 2 outer lights
     
  14. Mar 30, 2011 at 1:14 AM
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    Just do all 55, it's worth the extra 20.
     
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    Folks,

    Just wanted to make others aware that this is not a good idea. I contacted the OP and this thread has been destickied. Anyways, the reason being that HIDs can reach as high as 20,000 Volts during startup. The wiring from the ballast to the bulb is specifically made to hold off high voltages. The original wiring in these lights is not intended for high voltages. This will cause arcing during startup of the HID system and possible fire, explosion, or other hazardous things to happen. Always keep the wiring from the ballast to the bulb in an HID system intact. If you need to make them longer, you should purchase wire extensions intended for this purpose.

    Like this:

    http://www.carhidkits.com/wiring-adapters-752/xenon-hid-bulb-extensions-pair-381.html
     
  16. Jun 6, 2011 at 3:30 PM
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    what was OP even thinking????
     
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    wow and i really wanted to do this
     
  18. Jun 7, 2011 at 2:17 PM
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    I'm trying to figure out another way to correct this problem. As for now Seth said you can remove the plug out and notch it so you can put the 2 wire through with out drilling.
     
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