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Hello everyone, in a little bit of a panic...

Discussion in 'Towing' started by KDOG, Oct 7, 2013.

  1. Oct 7, 2013 at 5:05 PM
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    KDOG

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    Hi everyone, new here. I need some help. Tonight I sold a kidney for a nice 2011Tacoma double cab, 4L V6, 5spd auto, 4x4. When I asked the dealer what the tow cap is they assured me it had to be the 6500 rating. But I keep seeing the 3500 number on all the literature I see. This scares me. I leave Thursday with my 4000lb trailer for camping in PA.

    It has what looks to be a factory class IV hitch on it with the wiring harness. Also I don't see a brake controller anywhere. Is it automatic? I also don't see a tow haul mode either. Is it simply keeping the auto shifter over to 4?

    Sorry for the noobness. I thank you VERY MUCH in advance!
     
  2. Oct 7, 2013 at 5:08 PM
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    I would check for the transmission cooler that is located behind the grill it looks like a small radiator
     
  3. Oct 7, 2013 at 5:10 PM
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  4. Oct 7, 2013 at 5:18 PM
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    Aahh I have that wire still in the bag in the glove box. I guess I need to pick up the controller. Luckily there is a big rv store about a 15 minute walk from me.

    As far as the tow/haul mode I don't see, am I correct about the auto shifter placement?
     
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  5. Oct 7, 2013 at 10:32 PM
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    Additionally, can anyone state why there are two towing weight capacities listed? For info purposes, I have a weight distributing hitch with the 4point sway setup.
     
  6. Oct 7, 2013 at 11:14 PM
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    I believe that's because Tacomas without the tow package get the lower rating.
     
  7. Oct 7, 2013 at 11:35 PM
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    As far as i know you're correct on the shifter placement.

    Whenever i tow with any vehicle i always turn O/D off.
     
  8. Oct 8, 2013 at 6:02 AM
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    OK, where in the heck is the wiring connection under the dash??? Its eluding me. Is that white plug with the black cover with "OBD" or similar on it?
     
  9. Oct 8, 2013 at 6:14 AM
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    The 2nd gen V6 doesn't have a tow setting for higher shift points. I also don't believe it has an overdrive. If you have the factory tow package (and it sounds like you do) you should have the transmission cooler. Just put it in your regular driving mode, unless you are going down a steep hill then you can can downshift to engine brake.
     
  10. Oct 8, 2013 at 6:25 AM
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    The owners manual says to tow in 4. The connector for the trailer brake is on the left hand side up near the e-brake. I had to lie on my back to see it and had a hard time reaching my hand up to make the connection. I have big hands though. If you have the towing package you are good to 6500. I tow my 4700 travel trailer with weight distribution hitch no problem. Mileage sucks though.
    The port with OBD on it, is for the On Board Diagnostics.
    The first photo shows the plug, it was behind that bundle of wires when I was looking for it.
    The second photo shows the plug in relation to the e-brake pedal.
    Sorry the photos are sideways.

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  11. Oct 8, 2013 at 6:54 AM
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    Not all Tacomas come with the factory receiver. The ones that don't have to tow from the bumper unless an aftermarket receiver is added. When towing from the bumper, the capacity is reduced to a 350# tongue weight and 3,500 capacity. The tow package gets you a transmission cooler (autos), HD alternator, class IV receiver and some of the wiring for a trailer.

    As far as towing, the manual says to tow in 4. Around town and at slower speeds, I would leave it in 4. For highway speeds, you can tow in D as long as it's not constantly hunting for gears. Since you're in PA, if you're towing on the highway in the mountain regions, just use 4 and take your time. On the flats, D will be fine.
     
  12. Oct 8, 2013 at 7:33 AM
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    Aha! Found it! Yes it was hiding there like your pics showed. Thanks so much crazy! I connected it and will go get the controller tomorrow or the next day.
     
  13. Oct 9, 2013 at 5:57 AM
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    Oh, no kidding? I guess I should read that manual! So I assume that if the transmission is in 4, it still uses 1-3 before lugging the engine? Say, I come to a stop and I can leave the stop in 4, it will not use only the 4th gear ratio, it will start off in 1st and then upshift to 4? Am I making sense?

    I always thought that if you shouldn't be in 4 from a dead stop, but I guess it's not like a manual trans.
     
  14. Oct 9, 2013 at 6:05 AM
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    With an automatic, you can leave it in any gear and it will shift normal up to that gear and that's as high as it goes. Say you're at a stop with the gear selector in '4', it will shift normally, 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 and that's it, it won't shift into 5th. Same is true with 1, 2 and 3, it just limits how high it will let the transmission shift.

    For slow speed driving, you're better off leaving it in 4 because, until you hit highway speeds, it will just keep shifting between 4 and 5, constantly trying to get up to 5th but not having the power to stay there. That constant shifting and slipping of the torque convertor will generate a lot of heat. If you stay in 4, the torque convertor can lock up and the truck will have plenty of power to cruise.
     
  15. Oct 9, 2013 at 10:13 AM
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    Not all autos are like that Mike, on my moms explorer if you put it in 3 it locks into 3rd gear.
     
  16. Oct 9, 2013 at 10:32 AM
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    Correct, I was responding to the guy with the 2013 asking though. It's true for all 2nd Gen autos but I guess I should have clarified that other makes could be different.
     
  17. Oct 9, 2013 at 10:37 AM
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    Was just reading the towing section of the manual the other day. They have a lot to say about when to use 2-3-4 instead of D.

    And x2 on the bumper hitch = 3500 tow package/receiver = 6500.
     
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