1. Welcome to Tacoma World!

    You are currently viewing as a guest! To get full-access, you need to register for a FREE account.

    As a registered member, you’ll be able to:
    • Participate in all Tacoma discussion topics
    • Communicate privately with other Tacoma owners from around the world
    • Post your own photos in our Members Gallery
    • Access all special features of the site

HELP about Trading in Tacoma for FJ

Discussion in 'FJ Cruisers' started by motorhead1257, Sep 12, 2013.

  1. Sep 12, 2013 at 1:20 PM
    #1
    motorhead1257

    motorhead1257 [OP] Member

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2013
    Member:
    #107363
    Messages:
    24
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Les
    WNC
    Vehicle:
    Casper
    None yet
    Hey all, I'm tampering with the idea of trading my Tacoma in for an FJ. My question Jim if you take on this mission is Which model is the right one "if there is one" and why. The one I'm looking at is an 07 Model with all the Hooplah on it with the 6spd. Manual. What I mean by all the stuff is it's got the A-Trac, R.R. Diff. Sub-woof and clutch assist button and I think something else hanging out over there by the clutch assist thingy. They're asking $17,000 with 105,000 miles on it.

    Thanks for any input on this.

    Les
     
  2. Sep 12, 2013 at 1:32 PM
    #2
    OffroadToy

    OffroadToy The dog did it...I swear!

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2009
    Member:
    #22680
    Messages:
    5,047
    Gender:
    Male
    High Desert
    Vehicle:
    07 TRD OFFROAD 4x4 VSC/TRAC/DAC/HAC
    snugtop supersport canopy, black westin bullbar/tube steps, piaa offroad lights, weathertech floor mats, oem bed mat, trd seat covers, avs inchannel vent visors, 2" suspension lift, front diff drop, rear differential breather extension, oil filter drain hose, a/c drain hose extention & reroute, front window tint, cat theft protection plate, tailgate clamp mod, xpel headlight/foglight protecters, oem block heater, bfg 265/75R/16 a/t k/o's, cabin air rodent protection screen, rcbs illuminated 4X4 switch mod
    I'm far from a expert on this but i would go with the automatic... you can switch from 2wd to 4wd and it has a separate shift lever for both. I believe the manuals are full time 4wd.
     
  3. Sep 12, 2013 at 6:25 PM
    #3
    motorhead1257

    motorhead1257 [OP] Member

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2013
    Member:
    #107363
    Messages:
    24
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Les
    WNC
    Vehicle:
    Casper
    None yet
    I think it's the other way around, however, the one I drove could be shifted on the fly between 2H and 4H
     
  4. Sep 12, 2013 at 9:04 PM
    #4
    OffroadToy

    OffroadToy The dog did it...I swear!

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2009
    Member:
    #22680
    Messages:
    5,047
    Gender:
    Male
    High Desert
    Vehicle:
    07 TRD OFFROAD 4x4 VSC/TRAC/DAC/HAC
    snugtop supersport canopy, black westin bullbar/tube steps, piaa offroad lights, weathertech floor mats, oem bed mat, trd seat covers, avs inchannel vent visors, 2" suspension lift, front diff drop, rear differential breather extension, oil filter drain hose, a/c drain hose extention & reroute, front window tint, cat theft protection plate, tailgate clamp mod, xpel headlight/foglight protecters, oem block heater, bfg 265/75R/16 a/t k/o's, cabin air rodent protection screen, rcbs illuminated 4X4 switch mod
  5. Sep 13, 2013 at 1:25 PM
    #5
    Gabex35

    Gabex35 Shinty Killer

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2010
    Member:
    #40673
    Messages:
    1,176
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Gabe
    San Diego
    Vehicle:
    2014 4 Runner Trail Premium
    King OEM Performance Series with compression adjusters, Custom rear coils drom CSS, 22% Tint, Method Race NV's 17x8.5, 285/70-17 MTR's, AllPro welded Sliders, Cobra CB, Gobi stealth roof rack, Rigid 40" e series & duallys out back
    Offroad toy is correct. the gearing on the manuals are different too and from my experience, get worse MPG.

    also, the 2007 models have been known to have week third members and many have blown them. If i remember reading correctly, there is a range in build dates that are affected. i would do my research. as far as the other stuff, most FJ's are the same as far as offroad options are concerned.
     
  6. Sep 13, 2013 at 2:59 PM
    #6
    OffroadToy

    OffroadToy The dog did it...I swear!

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2009
    Member:
    #22680
    Messages:
    5,047
    Gender:
    Male
    High Desert
    Vehicle:
    07 TRD OFFROAD 4x4 VSC/TRAC/DAC/HAC
    snugtop supersport canopy, black westin bullbar/tube steps, piaa offroad lights, weathertech floor mats, oem bed mat, trd seat covers, avs inchannel vent visors, 2" suspension lift, front diff drop, rear differential breather extension, oil filter drain hose, a/c drain hose extention & reroute, front window tint, cat theft protection plate, tailgate clamp mod, xpel headlight/foglight protecters, oem block heater, bfg 265/75R/16 a/t k/o's, cabin air rodent protection screen, rcbs illuminated 4X4 switch mod
    What about ATrac in FJ's for that year? My 07 Taco came with Trac... i think it was a couple years later ATrac came standard. Was it available in the earlier year FJ's?
     
  7. Sep 14, 2013 at 11:17 AM
    #7
    haddix

    haddix Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2011
    Member:
    #61865
    Messages:
    647
    Gender:
    Male
    KY
    Vehicle:
    07 FJ Cruiser
    SAW coilovers, Dakar leafs, OME nitro barger sport, 255/85 KM2, Softopper, ARB,custom sliders, custom rear bumper, IFS skid
    My 07 FJ came with a-trac and rear locker.
     
  8. Sep 15, 2013 at 10:42 AM
    #8
    motorhead1257

    motorhead1257 [OP] Member

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2013
    Member:
    #107363
    Messages:
    24
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Les
    WNC
    Vehicle:
    Casper
    None yet
    Here's what I did. I found this 07 and it's a 6spd with the A-Trac and R.R. Diff lock. I didn't know about the post on the "third member" stuff till afterwards. It's pretty cool. I did however, realize I didn't have my information correct when I mentioned shift on the fly. I didn't know how these were set up. The FJ I have is set up as ya'll mentioned "Full Time" and what I thought was 2H and 4H is not. Thanks for not busting my chops hahaha. Anyhow, it's got the option of 4H which is the "Full time" mode on the T-case, which is your standard running around town and highway stuff on pavement or good dry tight surfaces. Then you have the 4H-L, which is the "Full Time" but locked in with the "absence of ABS, this is the part the triggers our VSC OFF mode lighting up the light. And then you have your 4L-L with the A-Trac, and R.R. Diff-Lock options. Now anyone correct me if I'm wrong here cause I'm still trying to wrap my head around all this stuff. I'm new to this 4x4 stuff, so far, I'm loving every minute of it. Oh yeah, If I'm not mistaken the A-Trac and RR Diff Lock can only be activated when in 4L is that correct or am I missing something here?

    Thanks for all the help and info ya'll offer up to us noobs.
     
    Last edited: Sep 15, 2013
  9. Sep 17, 2013 at 10:45 AM
    #9
    virginiamarine

    virginiamarine Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 20, 2013
    Member:
    #104557
    Messages:
    251
    Gender:
    Male
    Northern Virginia
    Vehicle:
    FJCruiser/Double cab Tacoma
    It doesn't matter if you have Atrac...it's a button mod for 4x4s. Manuals get worse gas mileage as previously stated. Atrac works in 4wd, not just 4low.
     
  10. Sep 19, 2013 at 5:57 AM
    #10
    mike4

    mike4 New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2013
    Member:
    #98026
    Messages:
    4
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Mike
    nyc
    Vehicle:
    bl,2012 ,tfd sport pack,leer cap
    No after mods Came with everything but winch.
    If off-road use is involved there's no comparison.
    Wheelbase is what makes tacoma better than jeep ,frontier,even range rovers have failed at terrain that tacoma negotiated effortlessly. That my off-road opinion. You may have other reasons which validate a change to fjc. Nice vehicle.
     
  11. Sep 21, 2013 at 11:09 AM
    #11
    motorhead1257

    motorhead1257 [OP] Member

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2013
    Member:
    #107363
    Messages:
    24
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Les
    WNC
    Vehicle:
    Casper
    None yet
    Yeah, I'm so glad I got the 6spd Man. I know I loose gas mileage a little but for a simple 3-4 miles per gallon, who gives a rats backside about that as long as you get what you LIKE and WANT in a 4x4. I just don't like the idea of maybe getting stranded and can push start it to home rather than go "Dang, why didn't I get a Stick so I could push it off if I had to?" hahaha

    I do so love this truck. I was talking to a Tech and he told me, (don't know how true) that the FJ and Tacoma are exactly the same with the exception of the "Body" on the frame. It's like a Tacoma Access Cab frame with all the goodies. Anyhow, I like the idea of being able to crawl from the back if I'm sleeping in it, to the front and drive off without having to get outside. It holds much more than you think, however, naturally it won't hold what the Taco would with a topper, so the 4Dr. Taco with all the bells and whistles would be the so called "Ultimate" in 4x4 off-road fun with the FJC running a tight runner up depending on who you are and what you're after. :)
     
  12. Sep 21, 2013 at 11:17 AM
    #12
    Rupp1

    Rupp1 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 9, 2011
    Member:
    #58019
    Messages:
    1,810
    Glad you got what you wanted. I drove one similar, just decided to go back with another Tacoma.
     
  13. Sep 23, 2013 at 5:09 AM
    #13
    virginiamarine

    virginiamarine Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 20, 2013
    Member:
    #104557
    Messages:
    251
    Gender:
    Male
    Northern Virginia
    Vehicle:
    FJCruiser/Double cab Tacoma

    Tacoma is better than a jeep for offroad? I guess that's true for desert sand driving. Don't get me wrong, I love the taco, but it's not better than any short wheel based vehicle for off roading and negotiating extreme angle obstacles. Just try climbing a high incline and watch the bumper get ripped off. To OP, glad you like your new vehicle. You have a lot of options if you want to mod it.
     
  14. Sep 23, 2013 at 5:36 AM
    #14
    dexterdog

    dexterdog My pee parts itch

    Joined:
    Jul 12, 2009
    Member:
    #19571
    Messages:
    3,657
    Gender:
    Male
    Oly WA
    Vehicle:
    '07 FJ
    I think an FJ has a closer relationship to a 4Runner than the Tacoma.

    OP, glad you enjoy your new to you FJ. I do really like mine except for the chrome wheels that came with it but that is easily changeable. IIRC, '07 models that were manufactured in '06 were at higher risk of having the weak 3rd member. Also, some '07 models suffer from cracked inner front fenders. AFAIK there aren't any other real big issues to worry about. Have fun with it.
     
    Last edited: Sep 23, 2013
  15. Oct 9, 2013 at 8:08 PM
    #15
    WhatThePho?

    WhatThePho? Greg Graffin 2016

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2009
    Member:
    #19096
    Messages:
    5,488
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Andre
    HCMC, VN
    Vehicle:
    2006 STi
    The things required to pull bitches
    Look on the inside fender of the Fj. In the engine bay. Most 07-09 are bent and cracked...

    The awd system differs from 4wd. Just google 4wd vs awd. Too long for me to type.
     
  16. Oct 10, 2013 at 7:35 PM
    #16
    mike4

    mike4 New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2013
    Member:
    #98026
    Messages:
    4
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Mike
    nyc
    Vehicle:
    bl,2012 ,tfd sport pack,leer cap
    No after mods Came with everything but winch.
    The FJ caught my attention in a very big way when I first seen one,oh back in2005 maybe, I remember the moment ,not the exact year. It was powder blue.
    Color not for me but the truck was unique in every way.
    Tacoma is my thing though. You make all valid points in your likes and needs.
    Enjoy and be safe
     
  17. Nov 21, 2013 at 2:08 PM
    #17
    motorhead1257

    motorhead1257 [OP] Member

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2013
    Member:
    #107363
    Messages:
    24
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Les
    WNC
    Vehicle:
    Casper
    None yet
    My FJ has a build date of 03/07. I've not had trouble with it at all and I do want to mod it, just don't know what to do first and don't what will FIUj in a bad way. I'm taking automotive electrical classes and Brakes and between the two I'm understanding how this all works and it's sick what is being done with PCM systems to control traction and skid and all that stuff. Now, one thing that makes me really go Hmmmmmmm, is this thing I read about the A-Trac and the R.R. Diff not being activated unless your under 8mph. If I mod something sending a signal to the ECM and tell it (falsely) that I'm in LL when I'm really in HL then wouldn't that mess it up if the A-trac and or R.R. Diff lock are activated? I'm like, If I'm offroad and wheels are spinning and all of a sudden get traction something can really go sour in a fast way.

    Enlighten me here folks. hahaha
     
  18. Nov 21, 2013 at 2:42 PM
    #18
    LRSilverbullet

    LRSilverbullet Member

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2013
    Member:
    #117017
    Messages:
    10
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Dave
    E Texas
    Vehicle:
    Silver 2013 DCSB TRD OR 4x4
    none yet
    I now own them both...just got the Taco and had the FJ since '10. The FJ excells in offroad activity. I'm sure the Tacoma will too esp when I get through with it.
    I love em both. Hey it's a Toyota so you can't go wrong either way!
     
  19. Nov 21, 2013 at 6:47 PM
    #19
    motorhead1257

    motorhead1257 [OP] Member

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2013
    Member:
    #107363
    Messages:
    24
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Les
    WNC
    Vehicle:
    Casper
    None yet
    Hahaha, I hear ya there. Just grins and giggles I thought lets see if I can break it loose spin a wheel. Wow, won't pull that one again. It launched like a bullet and I know for fact that one rear wheel broke loose and one front wheel broke loose but it was just a split second and then the ABS kicked in and it was full traction and pinned to the seat, that's when I let off to shift and then just let it idle down to normal speed. That was the fastest 50-75' hole shot (so to speak) I've ever made.

    Yeah, the all wheel drive system is very impressive to say the least. As I said, I'm new to this. I've had 4x4's before, all straight axles and one was the gear driven transfer case married to a 4 spd. Now, that was a monster in it's own right, but this FJ is ANOTHER MONSTER altogether in it's own world I think. I just have to learn the system and what it's capabilities are. Can't wait to start getting a grasp on this stuff.

    Anyhow, thanks a million.

    Les
     
  20. Nov 21, 2013 at 6:54 PM
    #20
    motorhead1257

    motorhead1257 [OP] Member

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2013
    Member:
    #107363
    Messages:
    24
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Les
    WNC
    Vehicle:
    Casper
    None yet
    I've heard this before. However, when I ask no-one tells me what they're referring to as the weak 3rd. member. Here's the reason I say that. I remember back in the day, a 3rd. member was more like the rear-end on an Jag, Corvette, 280Z type rear-end in which the pumpkin, "ring and pinion" housing is separate from the rear axel in the sense of axel shafts connected to the rear diff by U-joints at each end of the axel shaft. Therefore, I'm think that the 3rd. member your referring to is the Front Diff maybe. I don't know so that's the reason for the "what do you mean" question.
     
To Top