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Help determine amount of diff oil

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016+)' started by tacomatime, Dec 12, 2018.

  1. Dec 12, 2018 at 2:12 PM
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    tacomatime

    tacomatime [OP] Well-Known Member

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    I want to make sure I get the right kind of diff oil and transfer case oil.
    1--Rear diff oil: 75W-85 GL-5. Not sure if its 3.1, 3.2 or 4 Qts
    2----Front diff: 1.6 Qts same 75W-85 ?
    3----Transfer case: 1.1 Qt SAE 75w ?
    Do I need any additive for the rear diff because of the LSD?
    I just got back from the dealer and their prices are outrageous. Here is their price for one quart each. I would appreciate any clarification on this. Thanks.
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  2. Dec 12, 2018 at 2:18 PM
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    JoeCOVA

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    Specifics are in the owners manual.

    Off the top of my head I was 4qt rear and 2qts front for a TRD OR.

    It's super easy.

    EDIT:
    Front
    1.6 qt. (1.5 L, 1.3 Imp.qt.)

    Rear
    Vehicles with an automatic transmission
    3.1 qt. (2.9 L, 2.6 Imp.qt.)
    3.22 qt. (3.05 L, 2.68 Imp.qt.)
    4.0 qt. (3.8 L, 3.3 Imp.qt.)
    4.2 qt. (4.0 L, 3.5 Imp.qt.)
    Vehicles with a manual transmission
    4.0 qt. (3.8 L, 3.3 Imp.qt.)

    Oil
    Toyota Genuine Differential Gear Oil
    LT 75W-85 GL-5 or equivalent

    Transfer
    1.1 qt. (1.0 L, 0.9 Imp.qt.)
    SAE 75W

    Toyota does not state there needs to be an additive for the LSD. I personally run 85w-140 in the gears.
     
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  3. Dec 12, 2018 at 2:25 PM
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    BillsSR5

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  4. Dec 12, 2018 at 2:26 PM
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    JoeCOVA

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    There is no approval required. "or an equivalent of matching quality to satisfy the above specification."
     
  5. Dec 12, 2018 at 2:28 PM
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    splitbolt

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    You got it...
    Doesn't really matter which rear diff you have; still need 6 quarts total.
    No LSD additive needed; it's an electronic LSD, not mechanical.

    If you want some alternatives...
    Redline makes a 75w85; lot's of guy's just run whatever 75w90.

    Ravenol makes a SAE 75w; seems to be the popular alternative.
    These also claim to meet the spec:
    -Bravoil FMT-3 75w
    -Morris Lubricant Lodexol MTFE 75w
    -EXN-MTF 75w
    -Royal Purple SynchroMax
     
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  6. Dec 12, 2018 at 2:49 PM
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    JoeCOVA

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    I regeared so gear manufacturers recommended the higher viscosity of the oil to help with load, increase heat efficiency, and reduce maintenance intervals from gear oil breakdown.

    If I ran stock gears I would just run what Toyota said to.
     
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  7. Dec 12, 2018 at 2:57 PM
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    DTaco18

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    I bought 6qt of Redline 75w85 for my 4x4 6MT diffs... 1.6qt + 4qt = 5.6qt.
    I thought I'd have plenty, so I filled the front until it ran out. Then put the rest in the rear.
    I was surprised to see that it took all of the oil, and was just at the point of running out.
    Seems mine took a little bit more than the manual showed, but I had just enough with 6qt.
     
  8. Dec 12, 2018 at 3:03 PM
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    JdevTac

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    Are you confusing transmission versus transfer case? I’ve never heard of any contention over transfer case oil.
     
  9. Dec 12, 2018 at 3:17 PM
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    Interesting. The fact that the Toyota crap is so expensive is a joke.
     
  10. Dec 12, 2018 at 5:12 PM
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    I am gonna go with the Ravenol. Amazon Carries it for $15.96 for the transfer case.
    Ravenol J1C1003 SAE 75W Manual Transmission Fluid - MTF-3 Full Synthetic (1 Liter)
    I used to use 75W-90 in my prerunner for the rear diff and it worked fine. Discount auto parts Carries Valvoline synthetic for $10.99/qt.
    Every thread is a learning experience on TW. A lot knowledge around here.
    Thank you guys for your input.
     
  11. Dec 12, 2018 at 5:40 PM
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    Just as an fyi, if you did want to use the specified visc, the Redline 75w-85 gl5 is not much more; $15/qt shipped.
    I only used it because I didn't want to deal with any question about what oil I used if there are ever diff issues...
    If interested, this is the cheapest I found: Ebay 181968651033 ; $90/six.
     
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  12. Dec 12, 2018 at 5:48 PM
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    What he said, I use Redline 75W90 in diffs and Ravenol in TCase. Both 100% synthetic gear oils.


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  13. Dec 12, 2018 at 5:58 PM
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    Thanks guys. Good stuff.
     
  14. Dec 12, 2018 at 6:14 PM
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    3rd gen LSD is brake simulated. Diffs are just standard open diffs.
     
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  15. Dec 12, 2018 at 6:50 PM
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    I hit 40k miles and just swapped out my Front/Rear Diff, and TCase fluids last weekend. Took exactly 7quarts. I went with Valvoline 75W90 Synthetic for $12.99 a quart, and picked up a hand pump.

    T Case: 1.1q
    Rear Diff: 4.3q
    Front Diff: 1.6q

    I didn't measure these out, I bought 9 quarts. Starting with the truck level, I removed the fill Plug for one, then the drain plug and drained the oil. Cleaned up the plugs and filled each back up until it topped up. When I ended it was exactly 7qts, when I added everything up based on what was listed in the manual an the maint. sticky in this forum it also equaled 7qt.

    The T case looked fresh, the diffs looked like mercury with the plugs gummed up with a ton of metal shavings.

    You will need a 15/16" socket, and a 10mm hex bit. I bought one at Harbor Freight and the other at Napa when I grabbed the oil. Some people have reported issues getting the plugs out, I didn't have a problem they came off surprisingly easy. I put them back on to relatively proper torque specs.

    I returned the 2 extra quarts. Took for a test drive, parked it overnight, checked for any leaks the next morning (none) and called it good. All 3 could be done in an hour.
     
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  16. Dec 12, 2018 at 7:05 PM
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    The diff oil definitely gets more of a workout than the Tcase oil. Not surprised your oil was merky. I'll be doing them this weekend so I can get rid of the shavings and get some fresh oil in. I think I'll wait couple more months for the Tcase . I have gone offroading little here and there, but not enough 4x4 mileage to warrant it. My mileage is at 13000 now. I used Valvoline in the past on my Prerunner's diff, and I'll use it again on the TRD.
     
  17. Dec 12, 2018 at 7:17 PM
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    There you go.

    The T Case just happened to be the first one I pulled, and it took the least amount of oil. I figured since I was intending to swap it all out in favor of the same weight full synth oil, that I'd jus include the T case. It seemed to work out well in the end since it came out to exactly 7qts anyway.

    I'd vote to just include it, if anything for piece of mind. That one had regular sized plugs also, I neeed the 10mm hex for the front diff and the 15/16 socket for the rear.

    Another comment I meant to add in my first post. I collected all of the oil into the same pan, when I was done I lined up my 7 empties and funneled the old oil back in for easy disposal - I only drained collectively about 5 and 3/4 quarts, but 7 went in. That's when I went back and referenced the manual and stickies to see what they called for and saw it also equaled 7. That means that between the 3, I was short over a qt of oil. If I knew that going in I would have separated them out after each drain to see where the shortage is.

    Side note: I read a bunch of posts and watched a few YouTube video's beforehand..... never realized that so many people are so heavily opinionated on their oil :eek:
     
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  18. Dec 13, 2018 at 3:44 AM
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    A good point about adding more oil than you drained.
    Yes, there are a lot of valid opinions on oil. What makes it more of a debate is the slight difference in viscosity, the oil brand and the warranty factor that bring up the opinions. I think we all want to take care of our trucks and not get robbed by paying $55.00 and $79.00/Qt to the dealership. It's just uncalled for. Its only oil that has been reprocessed for profit.
    At the end of the day, sharing opinions and ideas in here, helps everyone make a decision.
     
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