Help wiring 7" kragens - fuse keeps blowing

Jonah responded to the OP's question and you quoted him in your reply.
It looked as if you were the OP responding.

 

ahh i guess thats a little misleading if you didnt see the difference in our usernames ,sigs ,avitars and location..

 

ok now I am blowing fuses at the inline fuse coming from the battery GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

I've moved my ground thinking I didnt have a good ground, didnt change anything.

 

are you using the radio shack relay?

 

it is a 5 pin tyco electronics 12v 20/30a relay. I think I may head to pep boys and buy a new relay.

 

i have the radio shack relay and it workes great

 

ok using a brand new 5 pin

$207 12v 30a DC to DC Charger with MPPT, On-Board Battery Charger for Gel, AGM, Flooded and Lithium Batteries, Using Multi-Stage Charging, Charger for Solar Panel and Alternator, in RV, Car, Marine

12v 30a relay and when I test it with a multimeter I have power going to the relay, but no power coming from the relay at 86.

I'm totally confused now because the 2 different wiring schematics posted have the power wire coming from the relay and the ground opposite



This one says that 86 is power FROM relay to switch and that 85 is the ground



This one says that 86 is the ground and that 85 is power FROM the relay to the switch

 

i followed the second one exactly and had no problems, the relasy should tell you what number are what

 

It doesn't matter.

85 and 86 are the relay coil and they can go either way.

The only thing that might make a difference is if there is a diode installed across 85 and 86 to shunt any back EMF to ground. In that case, connecting power to the "wrong" end of the diode will result in a direct short through the diode when the switch is turned on.

In this installation, the banded end of the diode is connected to the source (in this case, the switch side of the relay) and the non-banded end goes to the grounded terminal on the relay.

 

BTW: With the switch off, you should see NO power on 85 or 86 (regardless of how it is wired).
The relay is not providing power to the switch... that is coming from your fuse block.
The switch applies power to the relay via pin 85 or 86.
That energizes the coil and pulls the contact in, which sends power from pin 30 out through pin 87.

Here is what's happening inside the relay.

You should have no more than 4 ground connections... one on the unswitched side of the relay coil (either 85 or 86), one on each of the fog lights, and one on the lighted switch.

I suspect that you may have an issue with the switch wiring. The ground on the switch is not needed for normal operation... only to light the switch. As a test, lift the ground from the switch and try it.
Use your meter to double check which terminals from the switch are the power source, switched out, and the ground for the indicator light.
Normally, the center terminal is the power switched out, and the terminal on the "bottom" (when the rocker is off) is the hot, the 3rd is ground. The switch should be labeled, but a lot of the Chinese shit we've been getting for the last 10 years is not.

 

AAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG.....holy fuck I think I may have it wired up right now

 

My ground from the lights was not properly grounded to a "good" ground

 

thanks to everyone who spent their time trying to help me fix my wiring!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

It's kinda tough with a 300 mile long screwdriver

 

Subd........Im installing used HID lights, that came with a POS wiring harness........Dude had "speaker wire" for power leads to relays.....

I have been scratching my head all day, about this wiring......I think all my issues/questions are answered in this thread......Gonna get back on the install tomorrow.........

Rich.you seem like you know what your talking about.....I may have some questions for you......

 

9 times out of 10, thats the problem with wiring auxillary lights for a beginner.

 

HIDs are a bit more complicated.
Honestly, I would never buy a used HID set... just too many things that can get fucked up, including improper usage (flicking off and on destroys the burners).

Me and HID go way back to before they were used for headlights:

 

Well I actually bought the lightbar.........and got HID with it.
atleast thats how I look at it......I payed for a bar, and got lights for free.....

I bought it here (TW) from a 'mogace' He shipped them with little/no packing materials, so one of the lights was broken in transit....
I figured buying from here would be better.....I guess I was wrong.......
Like said before, the wiring harness was crap also.......

I am very displeased with my recent purchase.........but am going to try and salvage atleast two of the four lights.