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How do you like your manual transmission? A couple other Q's too

Discussion in '4 Cylinder' started by Vrbas, May 17, 2010.

  1. Sep 27, 2010 at 7:55 AM
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    When I first test drove my 4.0L V6 6spd man double cab with 66 miles on the od, I couldn't get it from chirping the tires, even out of the dealership parking lot. I has bawls....and plenty of them. As previously stated it's a longer throw then a sports car or subie, but not nearly as long as an older model 4 Runner or whatever. If it real bothers you, you can get a short shift mod to install. As for the stressing idea at 3000 rpms, its all how you break in the vehicle, especially a manual transmission. As I roll up on 30,000 miles this week I have noticed she still wants to take off at 3400rpms and is not stressing.

    There is a shift guide that is included in the owners manual that you can look at and get a feel for when you should shift and at what preferred speed. Toyota gives you the gear and what speed should be the top speed to shift into your next gear. Take a couple test drives with a couple of Tacos before you make any real decisions, but honestly, manual is the way to roll.
     
  2. Sep 27, 2010 at 9:04 AM
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    I have 5lugger 2.7L 5speed. The transmission shifts great! Way better than the 6speed Nissan Sentra I had before the Taco. Yes the throws are little longer, but its a truck not a sport compact...lol

    Honestly, I would never buy a vehicle with autotragic transmission, I hate them!
     
  3. Sep 27, 2010 at 10:14 AM
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    haha ok if you think engine braking is a bad idea you prob don't drive very well. i have a cdla license and you would understand the need for engine braking if you had ever driven a big rig. heres the reason you should engine brake and down shift. when you lower your speed as to come to a stop if you simply put your transmission in neutral for one you are putting ALOT on your brakes period not to mention that when the truck is in neutral you are not in total control of your rig period. and don't down play the cost of brakes so much because if you frequently drive this way you will absolutley destroy your brakes sooner than if driving the correct way. brake pads are just one part of the cost of replacing brakes in alot of new cars its common to have out of round rotors or have your rotors not be in spec. so there is more money. and when you drive an automatic it down shifts automatically one to help slow your vehicle and two to keep you in the correct gear so that if needed you can avoid an obstacle. so to finish this once and for all not only should you engine brake but you should also down shift as well rev match or otherwise to keep your rig in the right gear so that if need be you can get out of the way as fast as possible. i think its also worth noting that i have in my last two high millage cars got 100k out of my clutches driving this way.
     
  4. Sep 27, 2010 at 10:23 AM
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    Though I think I agree with what you're saying, this is impossible to read.

    Edit: Although I'll give you credit for using periods. I mean, sure, they're almost all in the wrong place, but it's the thought that counts. :D

    [​IMG]
     
  5. Sep 27, 2010 at 10:29 AM
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    +1 exactly how i felt.
     
  6. Sep 27, 2010 at 4:28 PM
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    It's BRAKES not breaks.
     
  7. Sep 27, 2010 at 4:35 PM
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    ??? do ppl not rev match anymore?
     
  8. Sep 27, 2010 at 7:06 PM
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    I know I do...why wouldnt you?:confused:

    nice truck btw
     
  9. Sep 27, 2010 at 7:25 PM
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    I mean you didn't have to double post over a simple typo...sheesh don't have a heart attack over it.


    Everytime you press the clutch, you engage/dis-engage bearings/springs and such, therefore causing wear to the transmission.

    So while rev-matching may save wear on the clutch and pressure plate, it will not save wear on the rest of the physical moving system within the transmission.

    While the wear may be minimal we can all agree that brake pads are alot easier (and cheaper) to service than anything you have to drop the transmission for.

    Not to mention, i would venture to say that well over 90% of manual transmission owners do not rev-match, hell most of them i doubt would even know what it was, much less how to put the plan into motion.
     
  10. Sep 27, 2010 at 8:31 PM
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    Yea, we're going from a light duty pickup truck to Tractor/Trailer Rigs, which is two totally different topics. (I think, your post is near impossible to read)

    Unless some shit has changed (excluding CVT's and Hybrids) last i can remember, automatics do not engine brake in Drive. Only in 3-2-1, due to something about a counter-clock wise gear and engine coast brake, which isn't available in Drive. But this is going back to autoshop class 10 years ago, i could be off.

    Nice sneak shot at how i drive...not like i've been trained or anything.
     
  11. Sep 27, 2010 at 9:11 PM
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    I have an 97 4cyl 5 speed 4x4 and i can bark the tires in second gear. I have 210,000 miles still on original clutch. I got prices for new parts for the clutch it was $333 Its a truck not a race car...
     
  12. Sep 28, 2010 at 6:12 AM
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    I love it when you experts don't know the difference between breaks and brakes. It kind of makes me wonder about the value of your opinions.
     
  13. Sep 28, 2010 at 2:15 PM
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    Was thinking the same thing. Coasting up to stoplights in gear does not cause any more wear than slipping it into neutral. Reminds me of the people who spell MOBIL 1/Mobile 1. I no longer wonder why America is failing and 1 in 10 people are unemployed.
     
  14. Sep 28, 2010 at 2:23 PM
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    Agreed. Typos are one thing, but expecting me to take you seriously when you can't type out a coherent sentence is another.
     
  15. Sep 28, 2010 at 3:26 PM
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    I'm wondering why you are having such an issue grasping the concept of a typo? Not that it matters, but in my profession the ratio I type break/brake is at least 10:1, so its only natural for me to type "break".

    Not once did I claim to be an "expert", there you go showing your intelligence again.
     
  16. Sep 28, 2010 at 4:19 PM
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    definition of BREAK : to separate into parts with suddenness or violence

    definition of BRAKE : A device for slowing or stopping motion, as of a vehicle, especially by contact friction

    Got it?:confused:
     
  17. Sep 28, 2010 at 4:57 PM
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    Ok, clearly you are not as smart as I am giving you credit for, I am well aware of the difference in definitions and how to correctly use them in a sentence.

    Due to the fact that when I am on the computer almost 100% of the time I type the word "break", i rarely type "brake". When I was typing the post my mind was using the word "brake" and my fingers (probably due to muscle memory) typed "break".

    It was a spelling error, not a definition error....jesus why is this so hard for one to comprehend?
     
  18. Sep 29, 2010 at 6:35 AM
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    "Engine braking" ......on the trucks at work , its a tool to use to slow you down , nearly same on the tacoma , but more powerfull on bigger rigs...... neither is used to replace actual braking , in the tacoma i take my foot off , the engines resistance slow me down , so i coast to a red light time it , and hopefully not stop. That will not ever wear out the transmission/drive line. Its more pronounced in a commercial rig and can be controlled more with jake brakes etc. I can still downshift in the tacoma if i desire too for more engine braking but i dont , no need to unless towing where the downshift wont spike the rpm's to say 4000+ ...+/-. We call it engine braking but face it , ..stop making others look wrong by switching the context ... we use it to slow mostly ,not as an actual brake to completely stop the vehicle .

    Anyway its all a thread-jack , back to the monthly discussion on I4 vs V6 / 6spd vs 5 spd were real close to solving these items on pure speculation and opion alone , right hehe.
     
  19. Sep 29, 2010 at 8:57 AM
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    lol i was multi tasking at the time talking on the phone ordering stuff for the truck. and what the fuck is with the picture of the horse getting whacked off? punctuation fuck you. i was just trying to make a point. 99% of people have no clue how to drive a standard properly i was handing out useful information what did your post contribute? nothing except to reveal your self as an ass. i have drove truck for the last 10 years all across the country. i don't think you can say the same can you. contribute or shut your mouth. check my posts i'm a pretty nice guy that shit was uncalled for.
     
  20. Sep 29, 2010 at 9:01 AM
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    exactly engine braking will not cause excessive wear and tear on any transmission component. lol jake brake i think that they just sound cool i had one in my old rig and i never even used it.
     

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