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How extensive can you mod a standard reg 1st gen?

Discussion in 'Toyota Trucks & SUVs' started by Us3r, Aug 18, 2011.

  1. Aug 18, 2011 at 6:54 PM
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  3. Aug 18, 2011 at 11:49 PM
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    Thanks for the link.

    Heading to the yard saturday to scope out any possible parts.

    suspension is next on the list. in desperate need of a front lift..

    thanks for the help guys


    edit: seems to be very few parts for 5 lugs...
     
  4. Aug 19, 2011 at 7:02 AM
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    And there is a lot to be done if you consider swapping to a 6 lug suspension. It's kind of a lose/lose situation.
     
  5. Aug 19, 2011 at 11:15 AM
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    I think I might abandon any extensive mods on this truck other than basic stuff. Going to hunt down a 4x4 or second gen
     
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  7. Aug 19, 2011 at 11:56 AM
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    The six lug conversion is not possible without a torch and a welder, and if you have thoe two components you might as well go SAS. Long travel versus the conversion you are talking about and the SAS is actually about the cheapest/most practical way to lift a 5 lug. You can always do a spindle lift and an AAL that will get you about 2" higher than stock and still keep the 5 lugs great ride quality and handling. Make sure you get brand new springs when you do these because I am pretty sure you have substantial sagging in your factory springs because they have probably never been replaced and the truck has probably been overloaded a few times in its life. Just some things to consider.
     
  8. Aug 19, 2011 at 12:05 PM
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    Take a close look at the lower control arms to fully understand what I mean, the top is for a six lug and the bottom is for a five lug. Notice how the rear mount is at a different angle and the space between the two mounts are different from the six lug kit as well. You would have to hack two trucks up and get really lucky to have it line up perfectly srtaight, not saying it can't be done just not worth the time. Also the top mount for the shock on a five lug sits a bit lower and has one mount hole were the six lug sits a bit higher and has three mount holes. Not trying to shat on your parade just informing you.
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    Thank you very much for your reply. You are correct about the cutting and welding. I can get access to a shop. Just the time itself is out of the question for me as I work 6 days a week. over time.

    I have gotten a quote for a spindle lift and AAL kit for rear. Eibach will get back to me on springs since my buddy's shop has a contract with them. I might do something basic on this 1st gen and hopefully I can find a decent 4x4. I will continue reading and researching.

    as for LT conversions. I would seriously love to. I just don't seen myself fully utilizing its full capabilities. At this point in my life. I just don't have the time to do any type of expeditions or extreme anything. Just simple drive trough, hike around, kill something and haul it out.

    Guys, Thanks for the inputs.

    I am currently at work and when I get off I will take a closer look at the photos. I do see the angle difference. But it seems like light modifications. I won't know till I see it in person. I need to compare and measure the different suspension and see what can be done.


    oh forgot to add: I was priced out a spindle 3" front and AAL for rear at roughly $500 give or take. Still waiting on pricing for springs.
     
  11. Aug 19, 2011 at 2:36 PM
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    You're welcome man, glad I can finally be of some help on these forums for the longest time I just had questions....lol. I went with the spindle and shackle route with new springs and shocks and got about 3" total lift, $500 sounds about right as far as the kit goes but remember to keep in mind buying new shocks and springs because if you lift on old factory springs they are going to resettle and you will actually loose a bit of height that way. Deaver offers a leaf pack for our trucks that only provide 2" of lift but will articulate a good bit with greasable Orbit Eye style bushings and later on when you go higher in the front you can add longer shackles or AALs. The Deaver isn't cheap though but it is more practical.
     
  12. Aug 19, 2011 at 2:38 PM
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    Roger that. I hear ya. I've been around forums quite a bit.

    Currently right now I have Bilstein heavy duty's oem replacements. Lifetime on these things and I get them CHEAP. Going to go ahead and keep those and grab new springs for fronts. I need to find brand of the spindle kit as well as AAL. I like to weigh my options.

    again. Thank you.
     
  13. Aug 19, 2011 at 2:44 PM
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    I have the full Fabtech lift(spindles,shackles and longer shocks) with OEM replacement springs, altogether I paid about 1400 the springs are pretty pricey even if you get a discount at Toyota but I figured it be the best way to go till I build my LT setup.
     
  14. Aug 19, 2011 at 6:05 PM
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  15. Aug 20, 2011 at 5:03 AM
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    Turbos are simple, fab or buy a manifold run a dump pipe to exhaust run charge pipes intercooler blow off valve with vaccum source behind the throttle body wastegate if it doesnt have an internal one buy SAFC or piggy back or aftermarket ECU and get it tuned.......depending on the siz of the turbo and the brand names...or lack of brands you run it can be very cheap or quite pricey. I would say get you no bigger than a GT30 or GT2871R and some mid level components with an SAFC and call it a day with 220ish HP in your small truck.
     
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