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How to upgrade current mid travel kit to either stage 5 or long travel without going LT?

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016+)' started by TrojanTaco_92, May 4, 2021.

  1. May 4, 2021 at 2:46 PM
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    TrojanTaco_92

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    Hey guys:

    Simply put I want more travel without cutting through the bed? lol

    Wondering on what particular components I have to add [or subtract] to upgrade my current mid travel kit to either a stage 5 mid travel or as much travel I can get without going long travel lol

    (After doing some research its basically a stage 4 mid travel kit??).

    Front end:
    Fox 2.5 Factory series coil overs with DSC
    1.25 uniball Camburg UCAs
    Stock Lower control arms

    Rear:
    Fox 2.5 Factory Series Rear Reservoirs with DSC
    J66 series Deaver progressive leaf springs (10-pack)
    Stock/Factor shackle hangers
    Stock/Factory bump stop
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    What would I have to do add or replace?
    After market Lower control arms - 2.0-3.0 bypasses in the front?
    Archive garage hammer hangers?
    Rear Shock relocation kit?

    Thanks for the feedback!!!

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  2. May 4, 2021 at 2:52 PM
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    Brian422

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    In the front you are kind of limited unless you go Long travel. +2 inches over stock seems to be the sweet spot for mid travel upfront. Not much more you can do honestly. The rear however you could get up to as much as you need but you'll be sacrificing bump travel and ground clearance with anything really over 12 inches. @ARCHIVE can help you. He's the local expert lol.
     
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  3. May 4, 2021 at 2:55 PM
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    Im running 12 inch foxes HH with poly bushings. I get about 12.1 inches of travel in rear.







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    Thanks for the fast response @Brian422,

    With your extended rear setup, is your truck at a nose diving angle?

    I guess I should also note: I want to keep as a daily driver, but I want to be able to handle whoops and "prerun" a bit more efficiently -- wondering if increasing the rear travel (like you suggest) with the @ARCHIVE kit would assist with this?
     
  5. May 4, 2021 at 3:33 PM
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    Rear doesn’t really have anything to do with nose dive. You could absolutely use it as dd level. I’m not sure about prerunnimg my truck setup for trail riding
     
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    stages don't really mean much as it varies by vendor and/or manufacturer. Accutune has their own stages, as does Icon, and so on and so forth. But if you want more travel, then you need to get more travel. Adding shocks like bypasses doesn't add travel. Or was is it you are trying to accomplish with your suspension? If you're chasing travel numbers, then at most you can make sure your fox coilovers are the extended version, if they aren't or you are not sure then Accutune can assist you along with tuning. But you can't just bolt on a longer lower control arm, it has to be both lower and upper. And you can't just bolt in a longer coilover, as your UBJ, LBJ, and CVs will be your limits, not to mention a longer coilover would require extending your bumpstops. Basically, for the front, you are about as good as it gets. Something else you can do is, like mentioned above, get your coilovers tuned, along with some durobumps or superbumps. That'll finish off the front while staying stock "mid" travel.

    If you want greater suspension travel, then you'll need a long travel kit. There are plenty to choose from.

    I'd just add superbumps or durobumps to the rear as well. Besides that, maybe some hammer hangers if you'd like. Also, look into trying to make sure your deavers clear the driver's side shock. The bracket is making contact with the shock body.

    Basically, just throwing some options and opinions out there because I am not sure what exactly it is you are pursuing. I am not an expert, just a tinkerer.
     
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    Basically just copied my suspension :rofl::rofl::rofl:
     
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    If you do all Archive stuff, daily driving comfort and handling gets better, while increasing travel. There's no negative charachteristics
    You can get 12-14" travel out back without going through the bed or losing bump travel with the Archive 2.5" shock Relocation kit.
    Hammer hangers are a key component in ride quality, handling, increasing chassis composure so you can go faster. The stock hangers are atrocious, and flex so much they inhibit chassis composure so it becomes uncontrollable.
    Then you want our Stealth HD Ubolt flip option 3, our Archive bumpstop has soft engagement, and slows weight down over a greater distance.

    For speed with SOA, you need more rear lift than the J66 provide. Unfortunately, there isn't a light duty leaf that has 2.5-3" lift, so maybe have Deaver add arch to J66 and throw in an extra leaf

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    In the 4th pic, is that shackle rubbing on your shock body?
     

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