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HP Tuners for 2005-2015

Discussion in 'Performance and Tuning' started by Hacktacular, Mar 24, 2019.

  1. Jul 18, 2021 at 2:21 PM
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    12TRDTacoma

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    It would take a lot of money to get you more power out of NA and a lot of labor work to get said results as well.

    320-330HP at the wheels is about nominal on the majority of these boosted setups. Mine included after doing a few more breathing and parasitic reduction mods to it. They are fun to drive, but even more of a dream to use when you are towing. 2200 lbs feels like nothing in comparison to when trying to tow that weight in NA form.

    They are worth it to mod, but it takes quite a bit of things to really get it to these wheel numbers.

    If you want to squeeze the most out of NA you will always benefit from tuning. Mods or not. 181-191 wheel horsepower seems to be about the norm for NA in full OE form and the tunes are pretty nasty from the factory, especially 2012 and up. Everyone can benefit from a clean up and I will never tell anyone differently.

    Thing is, HPTuners doesn't care to impress folks with dynos because they market these products to people who understand the effectiveness of a tune and know what their software is capable of. Despite us being part of their beta section, their access to our PCMs parameters is pretty flipping vast.
     
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  2. Jul 18, 2021 at 3:17 PM
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    Here's my truck accelerating if you want to see what a "tuned N/A Tacoma" is like. It's on 87 Octane and has the junk listed in my signature if you care about mods.

    Fast? No. :)

    https://youtu.be/k1ZFHKJyxbg
     
  3. Jul 18, 2021 at 4:33 PM
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    holly smoke what an awesome setup and thanks for the intel. i want to get my feet wet with basic na bolt-ons and looking to get an idea of typical gains with a good tune.
     
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  4. Jul 18, 2021 at 4:39 PM
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    thanks for the post - that’s what i’m talking about! sounds really nice. i’m planning cai, long header, off-road y and exhaust on 93.
     
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  5. Jul 20, 2021 at 5:29 AM
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    I'm running a modified TRD intake (so it fits around the rerouted 2012+ A/C lines), cam gears, y-pipe, and Borla exhaust along with JustDSM's 91 tune. On 33's with bolt ons, it's no rocket ship, but gets waaaaaaaaay better fuel economy and runs down the road well enough that I'm not wishing I could LS swap or supercharge it every ride. I don't need dyno numbers to verify it's running better and more efficiently.
     
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  6. Jul 20, 2021 at 5:34 PM
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    tsb

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    awesome setup. i’m sure you have made improvements.

    dyno is an excellence tool. especially to compare setups of different parts and pieces.

    since there is a great tuning solution, i’m ready to jump in. any idea the best combination of basic bolt-ons for max mid to top end hp? are there products other than TRD & URD that i should consider?

    would be nice to see dyno comparisons before dropping $3-4k on parts and software.

    - cai
    - long header
    - off road y pipes
    - exhaust
     
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  7. Jul 20, 2021 at 6:03 PM
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    Whats under the truck? OME 886’s Nitro Chargers 1/4” top plate spacers 1.5” Icon add-a-leaf for a total of 3” front and rear. 275/80/17 MTR’s SCS Ray10’ URD Stage 2 clutch Heavy Flywheel Clutch Masters Hydro Bering What’s on the front? Cbi bumper steel. Smittybilt X20 10k Under the hood? Ultimate headlight and fog light harnesses 100w/90w H4Headlights 9011 60wHir Fogs Anytime fog mod Northstar Group 34 14.7 Voltage booster Red Line hood struts K&N replacement filter on secondary air pump K&N air cleaner Donbison Snorkle In the cab? Wet Okie seat covers Petal Comander Meso Maps and Dome Molle panels on the consol Flyeyze Under the climate controls,glove box and center consol TRD Logo plates over door latches Weather Tech Floor mats with Custom TRD stickers Weather Tech Rain guards Weather Tech bug shield Full Head liner of patches On the bed? Snug-top Rebel Yakima racks Chinese knock off bat wing awning with walls Water Port Quick Fists Mount Bed Mat Anti theft tail gate bracket Trailer plug relocate Coms? Buofeng Navigation Garmin Alpha 100 ( Hound hunting GPS System) ECGS Bushing Cobra Rx75 Cb Home made sleeping platform with drawers. On the bench waiting to go in? 3* Cam Gears. Powder Coated Valve Covers Custom 3/4” intake spacer
    Cam gears
     
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  8. Jul 20, 2021 at 10:46 PM
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    As the guy selling cam gears- they in theory don't help (or hurt) mid to high end performance but are very noticeable in the low to mid range. Just being transparent about a product I offer
     
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  9. Jul 20, 2021 at 11:30 PM
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    https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/quantum-solenoids-feeler-gb.721327/ I’m curious to see how these pan out.
     
  10. Jul 21, 2021 at 12:48 PM
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    Were you the one that plasti welded a cutout for the intake? I was able to fit it without modification and relocated the SAI. I recall someone doing that.
     
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  11. Jul 22, 2021 at 5:23 AM
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    Yeah...that was me. How'd you manage to fit it without modification? I found those AC lines to be very much in the way on my 2014.
     
  12. Jul 23, 2021 at 1:45 PM
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    Posted this in the dyno thread, but since it pertains to @JustDSM and his HPTuners tune I felt it should be in here as well. Made a dyno run on the TRD tune, and then another after the HPTuners tune. No other modifications were made so this is strictly a tune comparison. Current mod list is in the first post of my build page here.
    https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/my-slow-2015-build-thread.387762/

    Disclaimer: JustDSM said my truck was running leaner than most with the TRD tune, so he had less room to play with the numbers. Therefore I would believe that sets my gains as a low baseline.

    End result: 310.7whp and 324.8wtq. So a gain of 16.9whp and 4.8wtq from the tune alone. Gained hp and tq throughout the entire rpm range, but had the biggest gains between 2.5-3.5k rpm and above 4250.

    With the tune my a/f ratios are actually safer up to 4.5k rpm (they were around 12) before going rich, and now sit right around 11.5 throughout. Can't complain about having a safer tune while also picking up some extra power!
    20210722_183119.jpg
     
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  13. Jul 23, 2021 at 2:16 PM
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    A/F ratio comparison between the TRD tune vs HPTuners/JustDSM's tune. This does a great job of showing how little he had to work with, and how well he stabilized the ratios throughout.
    TRD tune20210609_171123.jpg
    HPTuners/JustDSM tune
    20210722_170453.jpg
     
  14. Jul 23, 2021 at 4:26 PM
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    Errbody always running up demanding dynos and not paying for any dyno time.
     
  15. Jul 23, 2021 at 5:15 PM
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    @nof555 you're a unicorn! :thumbsup:
     
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  16. Jul 23, 2021 at 7:54 PM
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    I dont drive dynos :notsure:

    Itd save me a lot of gas though tuning, haha.
     
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