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Huge job offer, want current company to match... need advice

Discussion in 'Jobs & Careers' started by DrRabbitFurHead, Jun 6, 2010.

  1. Jun 6, 2010 at 7:31 PM
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    nighthawk87

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    I seriously look at housing prices and the cost of living...I believe an index exists somewhere too. That could be a BIG reason for the extra $30k.

    Also, maybe try and find out why the other people they interviewed left the company.

    If possible, ask if you can spend a day or two and give the job a try with the people you'd be working with on a day-to-day basis. See if any of them take you to lunch or befriend you. It sucks working with people that are friendly.

    Biggest thing....look at cost of living, because $30 may be only $15 in a value-added raise sense.
     
  2. Jun 6, 2010 at 7:31 PM
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    nighthawk87

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    I seriously look at housing prices and the cost of living...I believe an index exists somewhere too. That could be a BIG reason for the extra $30k.

    Also, maybe try and find out why the other people they interviewed left the company.

    If possible, ask if you can spend a day or two and give the job a try with the people you'd be working with on a day-to-day basis. See if any of them take you to lunch or befriend you. It sucks working with people that are friendly.

    Biggest thing....look at cost of living, because $30 may be only $15 in a value-added raise sense.
     
  3. Jun 6, 2010 at 7:40 PM
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    my brother had to sit on his house for over a year, just be prepared for that if you do end up relocating. If its a small-midsize house I'd look into possibly renting for awhile until things speed up.

    good luck with everything!
     
  4. Jun 7, 2010 at 1:26 PM
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    I would be concerned about a few things. first of all, as some have already pointed out, presenting this to your boss says "hey, i'm looking around". even if you aren't and you were contacted by a head hunter, its still gonna look that way. so after hte meeting they may start their search for a new employee. secondly, hte offer you got from the new company is legit and they offered it because they are willing to pay it. your current company may dick you over (depends on how ethical they are). they may match what you want just to keep you and keep them from being screwed. then 6 months later once the other job is off they table they may pull a "well, due to budget constraints we are gonna have to move you back down to your old pay grade" or they may discretely find someone to fill your shoes who will work for your old salary. either way, its a gamble. on a different note, i'd be amazed if you got a 30k raise without a change in job title. they may promote you and give you a huge raise, but i doubt they would just give you such a huge bump while letting you keep your current position. just something to think aobut.
     
  5. Jun 7, 2010 at 1:33 PM
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    Its really hard to say with the information provide what you're best option would be. 30k could be little to nothing depending on the changing that will occur in your standard of living adjustments.
     
  6. Jun 7, 2010 at 1:35 PM
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    Talking to your current boss about this is reasonable. But you'll also poison your well. Quite often this just hurts your situation where you do work. Rather than go in looking for a raise, you should decide if you want the other job. If you do, great, take it. If you don't, then don't worry about this offer until review time. That's the time to pullout comparables and so on. It also demonstrates loyalty.
     
  7. Jun 7, 2010 at 1:37 PM
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    And x2. Well said. The expectation of keeping your current job without serious ramifications should be little to none, after proposing a raise due to another job offer.
     
  8. Jun 7, 2010 at 1:40 PM
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    New Hampshire = no state sales tax and they sell alcohol at the state's rest areas.
     
  9. Jun 7, 2010 at 1:48 PM
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    i had to do this once. be honest of course. don't exaggerate or anything. i would begin by expressing how much you like you current job and the current employer and how you want to stay with the company and in your current area. however, a job has been offered to you with better pay and benefits. say you are very interested in this job, but felt like you at least owe your current employer the opportunity to match the offer, if they wish to.

    leave it at that. see what they say. but ultimately if they do not match it, id be gone gone gone! good luck and keep us updated!
     
  10. Jun 7, 2010 at 1:49 PM
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    like said before. compare living expenses and what it will cost to relocate.

    if at all possible have a plan "C" for if you take this new job and it falls through.

    dont burn your bridges if you can.
     
  11. Jun 7, 2010 at 1:50 PM
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    Lots of great advice here.. I can only say from my experience that I had the same sort of thing happen. Working some where then got an offer with about the same pay bump to move across country..

    I just went in a had an open and honest talk with the boss. But I was VERY prepared for him to say "Sorry I can't match that". Indeed that's what was said.. I thought it over for about 2 weeks, then made the move.

    Haven't looked back.. Actual I have, and I'm soo happy where I'm at now!!
     
  12. Jun 7, 2010 at 2:24 PM
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    whens this meeting going to take place?
     
  13. Jun 7, 2010 at 2:42 PM
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    yeah, i would just feel uneasy bringing that to my boss. i'd either chose one company or the other
     
  14. Jun 7, 2010 at 2:45 PM
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    x100. $30k is going to be a huge step for your current company..(unless you make$600k per year..5%ish)

    i say start collecting moving boxes.
     
  15. Jun 7, 2010 at 2:55 PM
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    $30,000 per year is an extra $600.00 a week. New Hampshire has no state income tax or sales tax. I honestly wouldn't think about this for too long, I'd be packing. Buy some cold weather gear though!

    Edit: I noticed you have a prerunner, you might want to think about 4 wheel drive!
     
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    New Hampshire is a very cheap place to live, and the liquor is dirt cheap, but you're gonna have to deal with the worst of New England weather.If you're the outdoor type. they have the best ice climbing and back country skiing in the east. They also have a very nice beach. Jeeze, I probably won't even make 30 k this year.
     
  17. Jun 7, 2010 at 3:55 PM
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    The meeting took place today.


    That's kind of how it went. (It's tough to type out a 20 minute chat but I'll hit a few of the high points)

    I explained the situation, how the recruiter contacted me because 2 of my coworkers had given him their resumes. I then told my boss that I really like working for him and my current company and told him that I needed his help. He then flat out asked me if I was resigning. (kind of expected that). I said no and that I was just trying to get his help in adjusting my salary to within industry standards. I also told him that there were about 4 other opportunities that a recruiter told me about and that I was only looking to see where the industry averages were with respect to my current pay.

    The conversation ended with him saying he'd think about it.

    The more I think about it, I'm kind of getting pissed. He SHOULD HAVE said that he values me as an employee... blah blah blah... and that he'd try to do 'something'.

    I'll post back if/when anything happens. In this case, no news is bad news.

    How much time should I let pass without hearing back from him before I approach the subject again? What would be a good way to bring up the subject?
     
  18. Jun 7, 2010 at 4:09 PM
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    It sounds to me like your letter of resignation should be on his desk when he returns. I know that's easy for me to say, not being in your shoes, but I don't think it's right for him to leave you hanging and go on his business trip without some kind of an answer. In the end it comes down to whether you really like this job enough to put up with knowing you are being drastically underpaid.
     
  19. Jun 7, 2010 at 4:24 PM
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    some of this, a little of that
    How long is this offer for the new job on the table?
     
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