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Hydrogen Conversion LEGIT??

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by jrws6, Aug 27, 2008.

  1. Aug 27, 2008 at 7:34 AM
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    imo....good idea in theory, but looks like a pain in the ass. i'm sure installing that will void any toyota warranty. it also says you have to take it easy while driving...ie no quick starts, so i dont know how effectively you would be able to tow something. with stuff like this i always hafta wonder...if its so great and works so well, why doesnt toyota just make it and sell it as an option?
     
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    A buddy of mine seems to think it would work, but not for the reason people think or hear about. It's not the hydrogen helping burn, but rather the same effect racers get from water injection.

    Only this time the water is injected as either steam (since it gets very hot) or H and O separately (from the device splitting water) and combining into water in the engine. I know water injection works, but it's a delicate balance as too much shuts down the engine. Using something like this to split the water before injecting it might make the amount fine enough to produce benefits. Anyway, his dad has it on his truck, and he's going to try it on his Corolla. If he gets it to work, I might let him do it to mine to see what it does. :D But I'm not holding my breath either.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_injection_(engines)
     
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    there was an inventor back in 80's I think that had a VW sandrail that ran only on water... he has numerous patents out on his design and then he went on the news and showed his invention...he was found shot like 3 days later....so i think it must have worked....
     
  8. Aug 27, 2008 at 9:32 AM
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    Or, maybe he was going thru a divorce and his wife shot him? :D
     
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    I heard about another guy doing something similar. Supposedly Arabs had approached him offering to buy/pay to keep it quiet. He refused and was found poisoned shortly thereafter.
     
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    One of those guys was named Stan Mayer or Meyer or something like that...Look him up on youtube...Its pretty cool all the stuff he was doing...
     
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    750.00?? holy crap you can make the cell and engine tuner for less than 50 bucks

    i have the plans for a HHO on demand setup if anyone is interested
     
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    Basically it comes down to, in theory hydrogen mixing would work but your truck would need other performance enhancements to take advantage of it. http://fuelsaving.info/hydrogen.htm

    As for this device, it's not a hydrogen conversion device. According to the site, it's pumping "hydrogen and oxygen gas" into your system. As PiercedTiger observed, that's just steam (H2O gas). As for it's other declared benefits, many of those points are answered on the site above. It also recommends to only use it when at 55-60 mph. Since it has an ammeter on it, I suspect it's just boiling water. I'd stay away from it just because they're being purposely obscure about what's happening.

    Water injection:
    http://fuelsaving.info/water.htm
    From the site: "One additional point: "professional" systems use a powerful electric pump to spray the water in at several Bar of pressure. Cheaper systems use manifold vacuum to "suck" the water in - which seems illogical, given that the time you most need the water (full throttle) is when there is little or no manifold vacuum to actually do the "sucking"... "

    HHO:
    http://www.aardvark.co.nz/hho_scam.shtml

    For anyone who can prove their HHO vehicle can improve their mileage by 25% or more, the site is offering a $1 million prize. http://www.aardvark.co.nz/hho_challenge.shtml
     
  15. Aug 27, 2008 at 1:16 PM
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    chris4x4 With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. Moderator

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    Its nothing more than an electrolysis machine. It breakes up the water into oxygen and hydrogen. If it induced Steam into the combustion chamber, you would probably hydrolock your engine. This is not new technology, and mythbusters did an episode in wich the tests were inconclusive. It "Could" give you a little more mpg, but at what cost?
    The only way to get significantly more mpg is with one of these:
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