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I Need Suspension Lift Help!

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016+)' started by TKIV, Jun 25, 2019.

  1. Jun 25, 2019 at 7:54 PM
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    TKIV

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    The more I read the more confused I get. My thoughts for now are as follows:

    Guardrails: This is my daily driver and I want more aggressive tires while balancing drivability and fuel efficiency as it will spend 95% of its time on the highway (I commute 2 hours per day all hwy). That said, I want to have off-road capability when fun is required.

    Truck: 2018 Tacoma Double Cab Off Road, totally stock.

    Looking for your expertise but this is my current thought process.

    -265/75/16 K02s - C load
    -Billstein 5100s all around
    -OME Springs (open to Eibach or others - I know it sounds trivial but I like the look of non black coils)
    -Rear leaf pack (unknown size)

    Outstanding Questions:

    1-What amount of front and rear lift do I need to maintain factory rake? If I run 2 in up front from the coils, what size rear leaf pack do I need to make sure I don't look silly towing (personal preference don't light me up).

    2-Which coils are best for a soft daily driver? Again, off-road capable but my preference is for the best ride possible.

    3-If I'm running a 2 in lift do I need UCAs? What are the benefits/detractors?

    I have a flexible budget, not that I want to spend King money, but I also want to balance getting the best for my dollar and don't mind spending more to make sure its right for my needs.

    Thanks for the help fam, looking forward to your mentorship!
     
  2. Jun 25, 2019 at 8:11 PM
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    AZF1504x4

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    It’s perfect the way it sits...nothing you do to it will make it perform significantly better off road, it may look cooler and that’s probably what you’re after. Which is fine also :wave:
     
  3. Jun 25, 2019 at 9:52 PM
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    You do not NEED a lift. You WANT a lift.

    -265/75/16
    -Billstein 5100s all around
    -OME Springs (open to Eibach or others - I know it sounds trivial but I like the look of non black coils)
    -Rear leaf pack (unknown size)

    Your list looks fine. I think the Bilstein 5100 rear shocks only allow one inch of lift. You might consider the 5160 even with that, you only get 1 1/2"
     
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    If OP gets a leaf pack the 5100s will be able to get 2 inches. Dakar mediums are 2" at 0 lbs in bed and Dakar heavies are 2" at 660 lbs in bed (all with 5100s).
     
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  5. Jun 25, 2019 at 10:03 PM
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    As everyone else is saying, truck is plenty capable as is. Tires do help as the stock ones are meh. Just ensure you upgrade your spare to the same size as well.

    Since you drive 2 hours a day and you don't offroad much I'd actually suggest you take some of that suspension money and spend it on gear instead. Gear works great on road as well as offroad.

    -Viair air compressor (or similar) for flat tires on the highway or airing down/up offroad
    -tire plug kit
    -extra tire valves
    -battery jumper (NOCO gb40 is great) trust me, you'll leave the radio or lights on when offroading and you'll come back to a dead truck
    -Front/rear recovery point for those unfortunate times you or another gets stuck
    -a snatch strap, not a tow "recovery" strap (ARB makes a good budget option)
    -A D-handle shovel from home depot (no krazy beaver required)
    -A fire extinguisher (have seen plenty of vehicles on fire on road as well as offroad) Old and new cars burn just the same

    Besides that, just air down a bit and have fun with your Tacoma and KO2s
     
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  6. Jun 25, 2019 at 10:12 PM
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    Bilstein offers 3 shock options for the rear.
    0 to 1 inch
    1.5 to 3 inch
    And 3 to 5 inch.
     
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  7. Jun 25, 2019 at 10:17 PM
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    Watching. Kinda in the same boat. Been leaning toward 5100's
     
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  8. Jun 26, 2019 at 7:47 AM
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    The Eibach kit will get the job done. Rides great on road and performs off-road.
     
  9. Jun 26, 2019 at 9:03 AM
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    Have you found that specific tire size in C load? I tried finding it before and I couldn’t find it. Just wanted to mention that in case you haven’t found them already. They may be available now though but when I was searching I couldn’t find them in C in that size. 265/70/17 yes but not 265/75/16.

    https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/265-75-16-c-load-bfg-k02.544488/
     
  10. Jun 26, 2019 at 10:04 AM
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    So I found a pair on Discount Tire last night in 265/76/16 that was listed at $188 per tire, which was quite a bit cheaper than the e rated version. I assumed it was a C load. I still have them in my cart but I cant click on them or find them with the search function now?
     
  11. Jun 26, 2019 at 10:06 AM
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    Ryan, what size rear leaf pack would I need to keep the factory rake with a 2 in lift on the front?
     
  12. Jun 26, 2019 at 10:54 AM
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    Not sure man. I just haven’t see the C in that 16” size but I haven’t been actively searching recently either. You can either go E load (though it’s kind of overkill) or maybe step up to a 17” or go with a different brand if you don’t want E or to go to a 17”.
     
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  13. Jun 26, 2019 at 2:23 PM
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    You'd probably need an inch.
     
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  14. Jun 27, 2019 at 7:50 AM
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    Agree that the truck is plenty capable stock but the more weight I added to it (MT steel reinforced skids front and mid, SOS sliders and second battery set up by Off Grid Engineering) I found myself hitting the front skid on even tame trails off road. My lift is 5100's (gen2) with 887 coils, diff drop, and HD Dakars rear with 5160's. The truck is raked unloaded as you can see from photo but levels out when I load it for camping trips. This set up gave me 2 inches front without having to replace UCA's. Unfortunately the Mobtown skids dropped it almost an inch after settling so I had to had a spa 1/2 inch spacer on top. Shocks are set at zero Headstrong Off Road did not recommend cranking the fronts up do to possible binding. As soon as the KO2's wear out I will be going to a slightly taller tire-maybe 1 inch to get me an extra 1/2 of clearance more if I can do it without rubbing.

    The truck drives pretty darn good very close to the stock ride except a little stiffer. Still tracks well and is comfortable even after 15 plus hours on the highway. Alignment is spot on but Castor is maxed. Talk to Marie at Headstrong they are a TW vendor. She will give you no BS advice.

     
  15. Jun 27, 2019 at 10:33 AM
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    This looks sharp! For the rear, did you get 1 or 1.5 inches from the Dakars?
     
  16. Jun 27, 2019 at 11:57 AM
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    @TKIV They are rated at 2" with 650 lbs load. I also use air bags when off roading and loaded for a more comfortable ride.
     
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  17. Jun 27, 2019 at 12:22 PM
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    These are great suggestions for SHTF situations!
     
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