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If you weren't going to buy a Tacoma

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by bwana49, Feb 4, 2015.

  1. Feb 6, 2015 at 11:21 AM
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    Konvict KROG

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    That is a lot for repairs, what is wrong with it?

    And if I looked right it says your in NY? which sucks because I am from Iowa and if my cat's failed they would come off. Emissions are BS..

    As for Titan, or F150.. I would say absolutely F150. I personally am not a fan of the F150 but I do think it is a much better truck.

    I have not seen ANYTHING impressive from the Titan. Its more similar to the T100 with an oversize engine.. By that I mean its a piss poor full size if you use it as a truck. I had a few friends who bought the 2 gens of Titan for the looks and they all had quite a few problems. Most of the F150's I see actually do well. I have seen a few fairly rusted Titans, and the rear Diff is not full size strength. Vs the Tundra it is tiny and VS the F150 it is still small.
     
  2. Feb 6, 2015 at 11:33 AM
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    Traded the 2015 TRD Pro 6spd Supercharged on a PowerWagon and could not be happier. My 2011 Tacoma with the TX Baja package (Added by me) is still treating me great. My 1985 Toyota never skips a beat.
    Dodge has never made a truck you could drive for a year without a leak!

    Yea the rear diff in the Titan is pathetic for a full size truck. They also had engine issues pretty bad. And they have expensive emissions system problems if you take them off road.

    I have seen many F series farm trucks back home, and fleet trucks as well. And I have repaired many old Yota farm trucks. If it comes down to a cheap work truck my first choice would be old yota. If bigger is needed it would be a ford. And if I was only towing big shit, it would be a 6.7 Cummins dodge with 6spd manual.

    If I was buying a personal vehicle, not just a cheap work vehicle, its Tacoma-Tundra-big dodge at the moment. Until I out grow the Tacoma then we will see which step is next.
     
  3. Feb 6, 2015 at 11:35 AM
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    and a 4runner would be great if I could get away with it.
     
  4. Feb 6, 2015 at 12:01 PM
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    I dotn think 2016 Titan is on sale right now. Mid year I believe so most likely very little will apply from Old Titan to new one considering this one comes with 550 ft-lb Diesel.

    Still I have no problem giving Nissan a run. With the exception of some crazy rodent attraction they were good for me, and had less rust.
     
  5. Feb 6, 2015 at 12:11 PM
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    NIssans have been decent that I have been around. EXCEPT the Titans. Hopefully they fix It for whenever the new gen comes out.

    I like the frontier, I always have the way it looks and the options. It is decent for reliability the thing that has kept me from getting one is
    -Tacoma resale, and reliability slightly better
    -Frontier has a GOD AWFUL interior!!!
     
  6. Feb 6, 2015 at 12:31 PM
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    I moded 1999 Taco so much it had turned to Land Cruiser
    Yeah Like Frontier too, but I am keeping my Tacoma unless Toyota does not replace the frame. If I keep it than no room for Frontier IF I trade in still need something to tow more than current Tacoma. So no Frontier again.
    But Titan sounds like a good deal, unless in couple days Honda blows everybody away with their new pickup.
    I would be happy with anything that can tow around 8000LB which is what Home Depot rental items are and most of small stuff.
     
  7. Feb 6, 2015 at 12:53 PM
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    8000 is not bad with 6spd, new leaves and trailer brakes.

    It does suck with the auto.. and if you hit the highway your likely going to overheat the trans..
     
  8. Feb 6, 2015 at 12:54 PM
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    I actually worked with a guy with an 89 Nissan pickup (hardbody I think) and he bought it new. Now has 750k miles on original engine.. Pretty sure he said its had a few transmissions though.
     
  9. Feb 6, 2015 at 1:00 PM
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    I think you're kind of going to go over kill with that Titan and that towing weight. From what I've heard this Titan will be more of a heavy half ton, like the old Silverado 1500HD, than a true half ton. I expect drivability will suffer from that. If the thing holds together it should tow well though. My biggest beef is the exterior. It looks like a Dodge shat out a Ford baby :D.
     
  10. Feb 6, 2015 at 1:05 PM
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    been down this road already. my only regret is that my first car wasn't a first gen.
     
  11. Feb 6, 2015 at 1:07 PM
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    Im not sure about second gen titan but the first used the same diff as the frontier. In a bigger truck with more power..
     
  12. Feb 6, 2015 at 1:13 PM
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    Yup it was a recipe for disaster. I don't think they'll try that again. It was the son of a guy who owns a few Chevy and Nissan dealerships that told me the new Titan is a heavy half. He's been right about stuff with the Colorado so I trust him that's how they will play the truck. The only problem is heavy halfs are basically 3/4 tons, and have the ride of a heavy truck too.
     
  13. Feb 6, 2015 at 1:28 PM
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    I like the interior of the Silverado High Country. I would rather buy the Denali for the price though. I like that GM offers a 1500 in a crew cab 6.5ft bed now. Almost a necessity.
     
  15. Feb 6, 2015 at 6:25 PM
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    That's just the shit the dealer came up with doing the inspection for the frame. That doesn't include replacing the tailgate, fixing the rear locker, the exhaust system (minimum of $900 in parts at their cost through Monro plus labor for 1 of the 2 primary cats). I already paid $500 to rebuild the springs, and thanks to the upcoming TSB for those Toyota should be reimbursing me at some point.

    I like hearing good things about the F150. I know around hear seems like all the corp utility trucks around here are ford or dodge. That has to mean something.

    Seems like the 2016 Titan was going overboard on the drive train components this time around from what I read.

    I think you're right. From what I've see of the specs it looks like they're putting a heavy duty drive train under the XD! But then with 100-200 more ft/lbs of torque they'd have to just to keep from tearing itself apart.

    Yeah, I was kind of thinking it was overboard too. And I love it. :D I mean what did I do last time? I bought a truck that didn't meet all of my needs so now I need to upgrade. I bought a trailer I needed to enlarge. Hell if I'm going to do the same thing again with the next truck.
     
  16. Feb 6, 2015 at 6:37 PM
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    Yep... I've owned a Nissan Truck and it was rock solid for 13 years. If I didn't buy a Tacoma, it would likely be the Nissan.
     
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    .... just sayin'... GaaaaaaaaaH!
     
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    For those wanting the F150 EcoBoost, you might want to do some research to make sure they've got all the freakin' bugs out? I had a 2011 for a few months before the dealer got it back.

    Ecoboost intercoolers cause excessive condensation under low rpm cruising in more humid climates. Then you pull out to pass someone, put your foot in it, it sucks in all that moisture, and complete misfire. I'm talking like you ran out of gas misfire, and here you are in the passing lane. Put up with it until I had my wife with me the last time and we just damn near had a catastrophe but fortunately a shallow ditch to bail into. That was my proverbial straw.

    To pass emissions, they run ultra-rich at start up to get the cats warmed up. You'll notice ALL Ecoboost F150s have a tailpipe that looks like older diesels. This causes excessive misfires to the point of taking out coil packs prematurely and also plugs up your cats with soot so pretty soon you're not only down on power but your mpgs go from 17/22 to 13/18 and Ford ain't gonna fix it because misfires have to exceed like 1000 on a single hole per event before they latch a code and cats have to be almost completely gone before they latch a code. And mpgs to them is anything from 8-30mpg is in the acceptable range. So, you're stuck with a down on power, down on mpgs truck.

    Too many "inconvenience crap" problems to list.

    Best solution is to drive it like you stole it to stay away from intercooler moisture build up and don't let the vehicle "idle" warm, just get in it and go, which ain't always possible in certain climates, nor is it particularly good on the truck or for trying to get decent mpgs. So it defeats the whole purpose of having a smaller displacement engine.

    Or just get the V8 and forget about mpgs. Or, get a turbo-diesel.

    I'm still holding out on a turbo-diesel "something". No longer "needing" a large truck, I like the Colorado/Canyon thing but will have to wait and see if they get the bugs out and the Duramax is as advertised . . .
     
  19. Feb 6, 2015 at 7:18 PM
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    I heard about people drilling 1/16" holes in the intercooler to let water drain out and prevent issues like that. Can't remember what model people were doing it on though. From what I understood it was a turbo problem, not a Ford or Ecoboost problem. Some companies just position their intercoolers different to help avoid that.
     
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    Yup, that's an intercooler problem. I've even seen setups that ran the air over a container with some silica packets in it :eek:. As for running rich I haven't had that experience as of yet with any of our fleet trucks. The biggest issue we see with the Ecoboost is with locations that try to distance out oil changes. The system ends up gunking up and then you blow the turbos. We switched to running synthetic oil at the heavy duty interval change timing and that seems to have fixed the minor issues some of those other locations were having. Since we switched to synthetic, and our defensive driving course teaches you you don't have to warm up vehicles with synthetic oil longer than 30 seconds, I guess that could explain why we haven't seen any issues with the Cats and the F150's end up having a lower per mile cost than anything else in the fleet.

    The joys of boost ;).
     
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