If you weren't going to buy a Tacoma

Well shit. Talked to a Ford dealer last night, due to 100k+ on the truck they'd only wholesale it. With the frame as is it's only worth $2,000 to them (which I understand). Unfortunately even WITH the frame replaced they'd only give me $3,000 for it. With the dealer wanting me to pay $400 in misc parts not covered by the frame replacement that means I only get an extra $600 on trade. Not fucking worth dealing with at this point. Hell, it's almost not even worth trading the damn thing. I could probably pull the bumpers off and CL them for $500-$600 maybe, and then trade or scrap it for the $2,000. Or just private sell the truck.

KBB listed this truck with the mileage at $9k-$13k depending on condition. I've contacted 3 other dealers to see if I can just get Toyota to buy the damn thing back for less than the cost of a frame to save both of us time and money. Maybe I'll luck out and just get a check to put toward something else.

 

If I hadn't bought the Tacoma, I would either be in a 2012 Duramax Crew Cab Sierra or be in a brand new STI. I love having a truck, so I know the STI would of been a huge change, but I still plan to buy an STI (older one) as my DD once the truck is paid off.

 

What truck are they giving you $3000 for ?

 

something seems werid here

 

90% sure he's talking about his Tacoma. It's one of the years covered by the frame recall. It's likely that the Ford dealer doesn't want to deal with selling a truck with a frame replacement and they're low balling him. I agree with the poster though. You can't really blame Ford for not wanting to deal with Toyota's problem.

 

Tried CarMax? I've had them buy a car at KBB value when the dealer wouldn't.

 

What he said ^. My 06 is up for the frame replacement, and even with that done they're only offering $3,000. So I have emails out to about 4 other dealers to see if they can offer anything better. Two of them work with TrueCar and were $10-11,000 cheaper than the local dealer for nearly identically configured trucks.

I never thought of them! I'll be looking into them tonight.

 

If you like your local dealer, take him a copy of the TrueCar or offer him that much on the same F150. Most dealerships will match if they can. If you don't like him, well then don't worry about it lol.

 

I emailed the sales woman both Truecar quotes (one from Oneida, one from Williams, PA) and the dealer told me they couldn't match those prices. So after that, and the extremely low trade offer (based on auction results and what the wholesaler said they'd pay for) I'm willing to drive to one of the Truecar dealers that are 86 and 114 miles away.

 

I don't blame you for doing that at all . It's weird they won't match. Almost every Ford dealership gets relatively the same factory rebates unless he isn't making his quota.

 

Damn.... thats low balling at its best. For that much money I would just replaced frame and keep it as second vehicle. Start lookign for SAS kit.

 

Yep I went to a Ram and Chevy dealer to talk.
They had a list of Taco trucks that they would not buy due to frame problems or the risk of frame rot.
The stated they are listed as salvage or totals when they need to replace the fram and do not want to even talk to you if you have one of those years...

Really hope they fix it on the 16.

 

Did you physically see and hold the list? Where did they get it from? I think you drank some Dealership Coolaid. The same way a shady Toyota dealer might tell you that they have a list of Nissans they won't take because of there rear end problems.

They can look up a Truck on Carfax and IF a Toyota dealership reports the replacement of the frame to carfax then they can low ball you based on a major structural repair. That I understand. Lots of places don't report things to Carfax though....

For a Chevrolet or Ram dealer to say they have a list of VIN's of trucks that have frame issues versus those that don't from each model year is hard to believe.

 

Well, Truecar is something like $5 below MSRP, in addition to discounts. So unless the local dealer undercuts MSRP I can see them not matching. Whatever. I have several other dealers to talk to.

Yeah, I've kinda thought about that. Maybe not SAS it, but keep it as a second vehicle for building a trail truck or something to teach the kids how to drive a manual with. I just don't know if it's worth keeping? I suppose if I wasn't trying to make it pass NY inspection that would be easier. Then again, I'll need a bigger trailer. *sigh* It never ends.

 

Trust me, I buy a few fleet vehicles a year. Dealerships have TONS of room under the MSRP on trucks. On a F150 Lariat it's almost 12K they can move and still get a profit with just there normal factory incentives. That's why it's called MSRP. The dealer can choose to make whatever he wants off the sale. Ford is one of those companies that commonly overprices there trucks and chooses to offer incentives, sales, or negotiable prices to lure in buyers.

TrueCar is just a service that finds out what the people who are good a negotiating pay, and they have an agreement with certain dealerships they get a commission with to offer vehicles at that price. It makes it simple for the dealership and TrueCar gets to pocket a few bucks. If you want the lowest price though and you work for a large company ask someone in operations if the company is willing to offer there price on trucks to you. It'll be even lower than the TrueCar price in some cases because there is no commission third party involved.

 

Seen the list at the chevy dealer.
Ram dealer is down the road but owner is the same.

Ask me what year mine were and in talking he said he had a list and shower it of trucks by year that they were not to talk about trading at all. BTW mine were not on it so nothing to gain or loose.
Did not catch the full list but it dated back to some 90's and top was 2008 on it.

 

Yeah, that makes sense. They basically couldn't sell my truck as it wasn't "a whole truck" with the frame as it is. They'd have to disclose a hole in the frame to anyone that bought it, so they'd never have it on their lot. They would only act as a "go between" for me an the wholesaler, who, obviously, would need to do the same. Said the truck was basically scrap value at that point.

What I don't get is why a new frame didn't change it more than $1,000! I mean shit, if they're putting $12,000 in frame, brake lines, and other parts then the damn thing aughta be worth more! They said it's a "whole truck" at that point, but damn, only $1,000 more?

 

I thinking it's a Carfax list then. That or Toyota is publishing a list of trucks that are taken in under there service campaign? That wouldn't make sense to me though unless the NHTSA or other agency makes them do it for some reason.

A truck assembled by Bob the Mechanic in a Toyota shop is not the same as a truck assembled on the assembly line. That's why.

 

I work for Dell. Unfortunately I can't talk to someone in Operations. Company is so damn big I don't actually see Dell management unless there's a problem. I went through HR and our benefits site, but the only car buying discounts were TrueCar and "distributor pricing" on Chevy/GMC I think. There was no partner pricing with Ford, despite the fact we apparently have a large support contract with Ford.

 

Shitty deal. I work for Agrium. They list a number to call for Ford, Crysler, or GM to get the company fleet rate on a new car. Operations is a little job I do on the side for my location so I get to see what trucks are worth all the time. I could get a fairly well equipped Ford F150 XLT 4x4 Crew Cab right now for about 31K CAD +tax with the 5.0L engine. You should see the salesman butthurt when you walk off the lot with a truck for thousands less than his "best deal" he tried to give you a few days ago .