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Installed my 2nd All Pro front plate bumper - tons of pics

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas' started by DrRabbitFurHead, Jul 11, 2010.

  1. Jul 11, 2010 at 11:05 AM
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    DrRabbitFurHead

    DrRabbitFurHead [OP] Yeah, there's a TSB for that!

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    There are definitely some good folks up at All Pro. Sarah, Pepe, and Jack have all helped me over the past year or so. I jokingly say that I've been their worst customer due to all of the "bad luck" that I've had. Fortunately, All Pro has come thru to make things right time and time and time again.

    My latest saga was a front plate bumper that was rusting very badly after about 10 months of use. All Pro really stepped up to the plate and now I have a new bumper on my truck for a reasonable fee.

    I've decided to take a bunch of pics so people could see the differences between the old style bumper and the new style bumper. The new bumper has more than twice as many pieces, has better ground clearance, but definitely has a "different" look to it. The hardware has changed (gone are the nylok nuts which I loved) but the lock washers should work just as well.

    All in all, I'm happy with the new bumper, but like the design and coverage of the old bumper a little bit more.

    In case you were wondering, the shipping weight was 80lbs for box 1 of 2 and 40 lbs for box 2 of 2.

    Here are some photos comparing the old design to the new one... ENJOY!

    I'll start off by showing a side (profile) view of the legacy bumper:
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    Now, by contrast, I'll show the new bumper:
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    The first thing you can see if that the new bumper has A LOT MORE HARDWARE! Also the side pieces are no longer "one piece", they are multiple pieces welded and bolted together (and you get to do the wrenching). Here's what I mean...

    Count the bolts:
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    I'm a little less impressed with the quality of the welds, but I'm a very picky person and would have NEVER noticed this if I didn't have both bumpers side by side.

    Old bumper:
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    New bumper same shot:
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    Old bumper, corners:
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    New bumper, corners:
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    The front coverage isn't as nice looking IMO, near the bottom of the bumper, but I'm more old school and that's just my opinion. The (AP) symbol that is cut (water jet maybe?) into the front bottom piece looks cool, but this piece doesn't cover the front of the truck very well and it leaves a bunch of the ugly truck showing. No big deal... I bought some Rustoleum today and will touch things up so it won't be so noticeable. Here is a front view of the new bumper.

    [​IMG]

    I saw another person on the forum putting the PIAA rock guards into his bumper. He cut, trimmed, etc... but I decided to use a big hammer, a piece of wood to distribute the load and it turned the round rock guard into the perfect shape.

    [​IMG]

    All in all, I'm still impressed with the bumper and recommend it to anyone. All Pro's customer service really shines when there is an issue. Thanks to everyone at the shop who's helped out over the last year!

    Todd
     
  2. Jul 11, 2010 at 11:09 AM
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    Brunes

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    Glad to see it all came together good for you. Good on AP too!!

    Those were some great photos and stuff Todd- Thanks!!
     
  3. Jul 11, 2010 at 11:12 AM
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    1337Taco

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    Great looking bumper!

    I've only dealt with Jack so far, but he has been extremely helpful and responded quickly to all my questions and concerns. Although there has been unfortunate luck with some of their products lately they always have great service to back it up. :thumbsup:

    Any more full shots of the truck with the new bumper?
     
  4. Jul 11, 2010 at 11:31 AM
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    DrRabbitFurHead

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    I've got a few more pics that I've snapped. I'll just throw them in and see if that's what you were looking for... ENJOY! :D

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  5. Jul 11, 2010 at 11:32 AM
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    Oh dood....So jealous. I can't wait to get my house closed on so I can go back to spending money on the truck....You've convinced me...bumpers are the next thing.
     
  6. Jul 11, 2010 at 11:35 AM
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    Love the look of your truck!
     
  7. Jul 11, 2010 at 12:39 PM
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  8. Jul 11, 2010 at 12:41 PM
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    ha ha... just noticed that my hood wasn't completely shut in the pics. :D
     
  9. Jul 11, 2010 at 12:44 PM
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    blackhawke88

    blackhawke88 wo ai ni bao bei ^_^

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    great evaluation! :thumbsup:
     
  10. Jul 11, 2010 at 12:48 PM
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    Heh I was going to ask what happened to it lol...

    Looks good... I've been on the fence about maybe swapping to the new one before installing my first gen but this helps kinda convince me to probably just stick with the first. Both are great though, but I do feel the points you made. Thanks for the post and comparisons, really helpful!
     
  11. Jul 11, 2010 at 5:04 PM
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    Another thing creeped up on me tonight... While driving, the bumper squeeks like crazy on the passnegers side. I can move the truck up and down by the bumper by hand and I can hear it squeek like crazy. With so many individual pieces being bolted together, the parts are "over constrained". I'm going to loosen up some of the bolts then retighten them to see if I can get things to quiet down. I'm sure it's a "non-issue" but just one more part of the experience.
     
  12. Jul 17, 2010 at 6:37 PM
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    FYI... I figured out what was squeeking. The new bottom plate that says (AP) is supposed to bolt to the skid plate. I didn't have them bolted together because the holes in the skidplate didn't line up with the holes in the new plate (they were about 1/3" off). A drill, a Kobalt bit and a little black Krylon spray paint and the squeek is gone! I also painted the pieces that are now exposed by the new bumper and it looks MUCH BETTER! While I had the spray paint out I decided to touch up the vertical radiator bars and even touched up the horizontal bar below the grill. INext I swapped out a burnt out PIAA bulb and put everything back together.

    FUN DAY!!! :cool:
     
  13. Jul 17, 2010 at 6:46 PM
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    Pretty sweet looking bumper. Congrats. Glad All-Pro worked with you. I am hoping to snag a used bumper off someone...:D
     
  14. Jul 21, 2010 at 10:35 PM
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    Once Demello gets their bumper going, I am ditching the All-Pro in favor of their new plate bumper!

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  15. Jul 21, 2010 at 10:41 PM
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    Cant wait to see the light hoops and their final product. I hope to be back in Cali when they roll these new bumpers out so this shipping to Hawaii isnt jacking up the prices anymore.
     
  16. Jul 21, 2010 at 11:02 PM
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    Wow, that Demello looks just like a cross between the All Pro and my bumper! :eek:
     
  17. Jul 21, 2010 at 11:27 PM
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    Going to pick it up this friday!! :D

    Install is going this saturday. Testing will go on Sunday on the North Shore.
     
  18. Jul 22, 2010 at 2:12 PM
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    But isn't the Demello about 2" too narrow for the flares or are they making this thing for the base truck? :confused:
     
  19. Jul 22, 2010 at 2:19 PM
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  20. Jul 22, 2010 at 2:22 PM
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    In the final version, they will widen it to line up with the fenders.
     
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