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just a little lift....

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by crytesy, Oct 11, 2008.

  1. Oct 11, 2008 at 6:55 AM
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    crytesy

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    Hello All!

    I would like to lift my Tacoma just a moderate amount (2" max). Are the levelling kits a good idea for the front end? I simply want enough room to put some larger tires on the vehicle but I am not sure what size would look and work the best?

    Has anyone completed light modifcations with regards to lift and tires??

    I am mostly a city dweller looking for a sharp appearance - I am not looking to intall mudders'.

    thanks
     
  2. Oct 11, 2008 at 7:11 AM
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    chris4x4

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    Check out the adjustable Bilsien 5100's. :)
     
  3. Oct 11, 2008 at 7:24 AM
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    You basically want to do the the same as I'm looking to do. The Bilstein 5100's are one option I'm considering but I'm also looking at top mount spacers like Hell Bent Steel: http://www.hellbentsteel.com/toyota_tacoma_leveling_kits.html They're cheap, easy to install (no spring compressor needed), and keep factory ride quality. So we'll see, I haven't decided yet but I definitely need to level no matter what. I hate the factory rake. Rakes are for leaves, not vehicles.
     
  4. Oct 11, 2008 at 7:27 AM
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    chris4x4

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    Those top load spacers can be hard on your upper ball joints.
     
  5. Oct 11, 2008 at 7:29 AM
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    +1 on the 5100 adjustable coils.

    These are really nice:
    http://toyteclifts.com/index.php?pa...ategory_id=64&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=53

    These are inexpensive but don't have a Bilstein factory warranty:
    http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/05-0...em360096584398QQitemZ360096584398#ht_1761wt_0

    From wheelers:
    http://www.wheelersoffroad.com/05uptacoadjbils.htm

    Here is everything you need to know about lifting an 05 Tacoma:
    http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/t189215.html
     
  6. Oct 11, 2008 at 8:04 AM
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    For normal types of driving are spacers (2") really a bad idea? I am thinking of doing the same...
     
  7. Oct 11, 2008 at 11:41 AM
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    chris4x4

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    A top loading spacer is affectivley makeing your shock/spring longer. When going over a speed bump, or large dip in the road, it will put stress on your upper ball joint. The stock UBJ's are strong, but under repeated extensions, they can fail.

    Check this thread out:
    http://ttora.com/forum/showthread.php?t=110876&highlight=spacer+lifts
     
  8. Oct 11, 2008 at 1:50 PM
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    Holy cow that is a long and heated TTORA thread. :eek: My take from reading it is that any suspension lift that allows for too much down travel can cause problems with the upper ball joints. This is why people should consider upgrading their UCAs at the same time they install a lift. It would solve the problem and correct alignment issues as well.
     
  9. Oct 11, 2008 at 5:42 PM
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    This is correct. Long travel shocks, or top load spacers cause too much down travel for the stock UCA's

    Absolutly! :D
     
  10. Oct 11, 2008 at 5:51 PM
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    Rakes are for leaves, not vehicles.[/quote]


    :rofl:




    so you would strongly recommend 5100's then? Is all around necessary or just for better ride?
     
  11. Oct 11, 2008 at 5:56 PM
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    so you would strongly recommend 5100's then? Is all around necessary or just for better ride?[/quote]
    You can get a good deal on them when you buy front and rear. Personally, If I were to get the 5100's I would get all 4. Way better shock than the OEM TRD Bilstiens.
     
  12. Oct 11, 2008 at 7:51 PM
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    +1 what he said!
     
  13. Oct 12, 2008 at 6:20 AM
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    Thank you all......I will investigate the Bilstein 5100's....

    This is a great Forum!!!!!
     
  14. Oct 12, 2008 at 6:28 AM
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    If I install the adjustable 5100's.....do I require a change in springs or any other components? Are they difficult to install?

    thanks
     
  15. Oct 12, 2008 at 7:08 AM
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    chris4x4

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    It uses the stock springs. You shouldnt need anything else.
     
  16. Oct 12, 2008 at 8:10 AM
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    I absolutely dont want to restart the spacer vs (insert option here) lift debate. I am more interested in the mechanics of the modification. If the truck is being lifted by effectively lengthening the shock (spacer coil over or 5100) you are still going to increase the angle of the upper ball joint and potentially cause it to bind. Thats what I deciphered from the 2 million posts I have read so far. Am I missing something basic here? For a truck that will see regular on road driving and an occasional dirt lot It seems that UCA would not be madatory.
     
  17. Oct 12, 2008 at 11:08 AM
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    5100's do not lengthen the shock/spring. It preloads the coild thus giveing lift. A top load spacer DOES lengthen the shock/spring, thus beating the ball joints like they owe money. When lifting, you generally lift at the expens of down travle. The shock is the limiting factor. Say you have 8" of travle and you lift 3". You now have 1" of down travle if your stock suspension was in the middle of the range. This may cause your shock to "Top out" creating a "thunking" noise when going over big bumps. I recomend an UCA swap when lifting, if anything, to restore lost caster when you lift.
     
  18. Oct 12, 2008 at 12:32 PM
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    Thanks Chris, I wasnt able to picture it in my head until you described it...
     
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