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KDMAX-PRO Tune by @PapaRee and @TWtaco

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016+)' started by PapaRee, Mar 22, 2021.

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Which throttle setting do you like best?

  1. Sport Throttle

    44 vote(s)
    40.7%
  2. Normal Throttle

    41 vote(s)
    38.0%
  3. Lite Throttle

    23 vote(s)
    21.3%
  1. Nov 22, 2021 at 8:41 PM
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    TacoMoose

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    Just got my kdmax pro tune done by Allan, its absolutely amazing. The truck hauls ass without hunting for gears. If anyone owned a 2nd gen, this tune will bring back memories. It shifts just like the 2nd gen transmission. Also the low end torque is awesome, can't wait to rip this thing in the snow
     
  2. Nov 22, 2021 at 10:26 PM
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    TWTaco

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    Review from @Onemoretaco 6MT owner, Thanks for the review! :thumbsup: Starts at the bottom.

    review.jpg
     
  3. Nov 22, 2021 at 11:34 PM
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    Tacosrus

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    Redding Calif. He's already done mine. Just want to upgrade and not have to pony up another 350 Bucks. Hopefully another 75.
     
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  4. Nov 23, 2021 at 2:16 AM
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    cemented

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    I’ll be passing through Redding probably in March if not sooner.
     
  5. Nov 23, 2021 at 4:21 AM
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    Has this new Pro tune eliminated the 'throttle lag' at highway speeds?
     
  6. Nov 23, 2021 at 5:58 AM
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    A few weeks now with KDMax pro on my ‘21 Off Road... shifting now so smooth I don’t notice most of them... city mileage slightly improved, highway mileage almost 2 mpg better... but the best thing about this is the throttle response and the access to the power. Factory, it felt really hard to get the motor putting out full power, almost like they tuned it dead at Toyota. Now I can launch when I need to (drinks gas when I do, though), and have confidence that the truck will go when I tell it to... and with authority.

    I was wishing, after I bought it, that it had been equipped with a bigger stronger motor. This v6 is not as torquey as my old 4 liter in my 2007 4Runner, I was thinking. That thing could freeway-pass like an old big block from the sixties.

    now this 3.5 pulls just as hard. Not an addition to power, just access to it. Better engine/tranny cooperation. I haven’t noticed any big changes over time as it has learned my driving, but I don’t drive well enough for it to learn anything it doesn’t already know.

    big believer in the KDMax Pro. Recommending it to a friend with a 2018 Off Road. Hope I never feel the factory tune under my feet again. Thanks to Kaleb in Waco for fast and flawless install.
     
  7. Nov 23, 2021 at 6:31 AM
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    Tacosrus

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    So what's the tab gonna be....
     
  8. Nov 23, 2021 at 7:22 AM
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    Hey Dave, just curious. Do certain throttle settings yield better MPG?
     
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  9. Nov 23, 2021 at 7:26 AM
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    I did the "Normal" Pro tune and feel there still is some lag between 50-70hph. Needs a lot of pedal on slight incline to get tranny to down shift. I do feel its better than stock set up though.
     
  10. Nov 23, 2021 at 7:32 AM
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    39° 31′ 6″ N, 119° 59′ 19″ W
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    So if we already have 6.0 and want to upgrade to “pro” is the upgrade free?
     
  11. Nov 23, 2021 at 7:41 AM
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    Nah, there's a slight cost depending on whether you got tuned by a tuner or did it DIY.

    My tuner is charging $100 CAD for it, and it seems very reasonable.

     
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  12. Nov 23, 2021 at 7:48 AM
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    So anybody go from 6.0 SLT to Max Pro and feel it's much better. And the Pro has a lower RPM limit . Right ?
     
  13. Nov 23, 2021 at 9:10 AM
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    PapaRee

    PapaRee [OP] And now I'll do what's best for me

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    GTS Dobinson's lift-2.75", 33"-Wildpeak Atw3-18x9 -6 Offset ,265/70/18 tires, Raceline Assault wheels, Backflip G2 bed cover, Magnaflow exhaust, Pro tail lights, Pro fog lights, Pro grille, Raptor grille lights, Predator side steps, RedLine Hood Struts, Toyota bedmat, tinted windows, Retrofitted-BHLM-Amber Halo-Amber DRL-HID headlights, LED Highbeams, LED Hood Scoop lightbar, LED hidden bumper lightbar, LED under hood light, LED Bed lights, LED license plate lights, Tacoma tailgate 3d letters, Tacoma glovebox 3D letters, removed air dam, Custom TRD Sport emblems, Pro Shift Knob with Meso ECT Stealth button, Meso LED dome and map lights, Meso V3 smoked mirror turn signals, Meso Stage 2 Tail lights, Meso Mirror Puddle lights, Meso KC-5 Brake/Cargo light, Meso center console bucket with OG lid, Tailgate PNP kit, Garage door opener button in overhead console, Meso Minimalist keyfobs, Matte black Pro hood decal, KTJO4x4 Led door handle LED lights, Pioneer 6x9 3 way front speakers, Rockford Fosgate 6.75' rear speakers, TacoTunes tweeters, AJT black vent rings, JDM Gas cap cover.
    Yes it is better, and Yes the limiter is lower 6500rpm. Wide open throttle shifts are around 6000-6300rpm. It really PULLS!
     
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  14. Nov 23, 2021 at 9:26 AM
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    I have ran all 3 throttle settings multiple times. On my truck it seems if you can drive normal keeping under 70 and not mashing the pedal from light to light (This a lot of fun) my truck gets better mpg on all 3 settings.Again driving habits and mods are different on every truck so mpgs will very.
     
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  15. Nov 23, 2021 at 9:41 AM
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    PapaRee

    PapaRee [OP] And now I'll do what's best for me

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    I agree with Dave.
    The tune is the same, only the throttle sensitivity is different.
    So the MPG's are the same, depending on driving habits.
     
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  16. Nov 23, 2021 at 12:28 PM
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    Big shout out to @PapaRee

    I attempted a flash in a parking lot from my iPhone Hotspot. VfTuner wasn't playing nice and my Taco wouldn't start. @PapaRee saved my stranded ass by giving me a call and getting me back running (Force Flash on stock tune).

    Moral of the story. Flash in the comfort of your home/garage and on a stable internet connection.

    Cheers and Happy Thanksgiving folks.
     
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  17. Nov 23, 2021 at 12:30 PM
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    PapaRee [OP] And now I'll do what's best for me

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    Ahhh Yeaah!
    Glad we got it fixed!
    Happy Thanksgiving to you and your family too!
     
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  18. Nov 23, 2021 at 1:29 PM
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    I Pm'd @PapaRee on Sunday at 4:48 inquiring about upgrading to KDMax Pro from KDMax 7.0 and had the file by 4:55. Probably a bit of a coincidence that I caught him on TW, but nonetheless, that's what I call service.

    I flashed my 21 Sport on Monday morning at work and jumped on I70 after work to head the 120 miles or so to Denver for the Colorado Avalanche game. As soon as I entered the on-ramp, I could immediately tell the difference in the Pro tune. Acceleration was smooth, and shift points were spot on, and although noticeable, they were still smooth considering I had reset all of my values before I flashed. Twenty minutes later, I was on my way up Vail Pass and noticed that the truck was holding power better in all gears. Although it took some pedal jamming to get it to downshift, after I turned on ECT, everything was great, and I was able to hold 70+ up the pass without the truck constantly shifting.

    As the drive went on, things only got better, with my wife commenting on how well the truck was holding speed with reduced shifting/jerkiness.

    The rest of the drive, including heading up to the Eisenhower/Johnson tunnels, was excellent, with shifting getting more reliable and smooth as the trip wore on. Entering Denver, I encountered heavy rush hour traffic, where in the past it was hard to ease into the throttle without surges or dead pedal while in continuous stop-and-go traffic, now it was smooth like butter with no noticeable throttle dead spots or jumpiness.

    After leaving the game, I had to punch it to get into traffic, and acceleration was smooth and predictable with no surges or differences in acceleration regardless of the RPMs.

    Since the day I flashed the first version, I have been a fan and proponent of KDMax, but the new Pro version firmly solidifies my belief that everyone who has any driveability complaints needs to get this done. For anyone who drives in the mountains, you can feel my pain going up and down high mountain passes on a stock tune, and I can confidently say KDMax pro will make you smile. :):)

    As many have said before me, this is the best mod you can get for the money.

    Get VFTuner or find a KDMax tuner from the first page and get it done as soon as possible, you won't regret it. Thanks, @PapaRee, and @TWTaco for all of your work and excellent service.

    - More low-end torque. Yes!
    - Improved gas mileage. Best MPGs so far! (As always, NOT Guaranteed.) +2mpg highway with lots of learning still to do.
    - Octane learning from 87-93 octane--no more Regular and Premium versions. Yes and Yes
    - Improved/smoother shifting. Whoop! Whoop!
     
  19. Nov 23, 2021 at 1:36 PM
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    TWTaco

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    Thanks for the great detailed review! Glad your entirely happy with the new KDMAX-Pro tune that is what its all about! :D
     
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  20. Nov 23, 2021 at 1:36 PM
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    As a fellow Colorado resident, this review makes me super happy!! Now I just need to hook up with @MGMSangTaco and get on KDMax Pro!
     

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