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LCA Bushings: OEM, Energy Suspension, Whiteline

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by alphabravo, Oct 8, 2015.

  1. May 30, 2019 at 6:26 PM
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    Since doing this "mod" to the LCA bushing washers, have you had any slipping problems?
     
  2. May 30, 2019 at 7:24 PM
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    Snowman I have a problem for your solution…

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    I have not had any issues. Not saying that the “mod” worked though, may not have slipped without the dimples anyway.
     
  3. May 31, 2019 at 9:54 AM
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    I figured that much, thought i'd ask though. Looks like you just used a center punch to make all the marks?

    Just ordered the whitelines off Amazon. Not back in stock until the 7th though :/

    I've been sitting on a set of the ES UCA and LCA bushings, but really don't wanna go to the hassle of burning out the rubber and trying to re-use the oem washers and hardware.

    I'll sell them to someone for cheap since I don't have a use for them anymore.
     
  4. Jun 1, 2019 at 6:15 PM
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    Snowman I have a problem for your solution…

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    Correct. Went at a slight angle to make the ridge more pronounced.
     
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    I bought some used LCA's from a member on here; it took what...15 minutes to remove the current bushings?

    I used the stock bottle jack.
     
  6. Jun 3, 2019 at 8:47 AM
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    I did the same thing. Got a used LCA from a forum member and worked on putting the whitelines in this last weekend.

    I don't have a toyota factory bottle jack since my truck didn't have one from PO, but I had another cheapo that I modified to do the job. Then pressed in the new one with a ball joint press.

    The first attempt didn't go so smooth as the center thru piece pushed out of the rubber and outer sleeve. So had to burn out all the rubber and use a sawzall and punch to remove the outer sleeve.

    After cleaning up the inside with a wire wheel, i found some interesting marks. Seems as if someone before did bushings on this LCA and used the same sawzall method but cut a little too deep past the outer sleeve.
    20190601_220733.jpg 20190601_220750.jpg


    Did anyone see marks like this on the LCA's?

    20190601_220754.jpg
     
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  7. Jun 3, 2019 at 8:51 AM
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    the shallower grooves can be caused by debris removing material when pressing the bushing out. However, that second photo upper right really looks like a sawzall went to town on it.
     
  8. Jun 3, 2019 at 9:06 AM
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    I’m thinking about buying a used set as well and attempting to replace with ES bushings. What’s a good price on a set? I can get a set for $60 if I pull them.
     
  9. Jun 3, 2019 at 9:13 AM
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    That's what I figured. Given how uneven the groove is, didn't seem like something that would have been left from assembly at the factory. At least it's between the welds that attach the pivot to the LCA.

    Are you talking about a pair of LCA's or ES bushings?

    I'll sell you my ES bushing kit (8.3115) since I ended up going with whitelines if you're interested. Brand new in box
     
  10. Jun 3, 2019 at 9:18 AM
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    I have the bushings just thought it might be easier to buy a used set of LCAs to put new bushings into before tearing my truck apart and possibly running into complications.
     
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  11. Jun 3, 2019 at 9:21 AM
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    Gotcha.

    If it's your only method of transportation, that could be a good call. Then try and sell your original LCA's after you're done.

    Don't know what a pick 'n pull would charge for a set of LCA's, but I think I got my driver side LCA for around $50 shipped off of a forum member.
     
  12. Jun 3, 2019 at 9:27 AM
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    I was quoted $60 for a set from pick n pull, it would also educate me on removing and installing then onto mine doing it that way.
     
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    I'd send it, I'd just take a small round file to deburr the higher edges.
     
  14. Jun 3, 2019 at 9:34 AM
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    Given that they are in pretty good condition, that's a good price.

    As long as you don't have to wrestle with any seized cam's, removal isn't that difficult. Remove LBJ, unbold lower shock bolt, remove sway bar end link, loosen PS rack to remove cam sleeve, then drop the LCA. Some of the work may have already been done for you if it's in a scrap yard too.

    That's the plan. Already pressed in the new ones and will tackle the passenger side sometime this week.
     
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  15. Jun 3, 2019 at 9:39 AM
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    So check for physical damage? Can you tell if a cam is seized without removing it? I’ll have to do some research on it.
     
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    Yea. That and any excessive rust. The LCA's on these trucks are pretty stout so unless they were bounding over rock gardens on them, i'd say most should be good.

    Hard to say on the cam sleeves.
    I get pretty regular alignments and the tech's say that they have no problem moving the cam's around and they aren't seized or anything. But then again i've heard of some people on the forums that have gotten alignments just before and still had problems with seized cam sleeves when they went to do bushings.

    I have yet to pull either of my LCA's so i'm hoping that thing's go smoothly when the time comes.
     
  17. Jun 3, 2019 at 10:10 AM
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    Has your truck been in Cali its entire life? Tends to be more of a problem in more northern/northeastern climates. Even down here in the humid armpit of the country I had no issues pulling my LCA cams. Minor rust on one sleeve was about all I ran into.
     
  18. Jun 3, 2019 at 10:16 AM
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    From the little history I know about it, yes. Nevada and CA.

    I don't expect it to be too big of an issue, but you never know. My old rear bumper was pretty rusted, but that's about the extent of its presence on the truck from what i've seen so far.
     
  19. Jun 3, 2019 at 10:21 AM
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    Great information OP. I bought my FJ cruiser in new early ‘08. I immediately put it to use and within two years the stock front LCA started clunking. In November ‘10 I went with the Energy suspension bushings. For a month they were good, but then started to squeak. I milked them for all I could but they were not the greatest investment. In Feb ‘13 I installed the Whitelines. Been very happy ever since. If I needed to recommend replacements to someone, it would be an emphatic Whiteline recommendation.
     
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    Oh ok well if I do get a spare set of LCAs and the ES start squeaking bad I’ll put whitelines in LCAs I pull off my truck.
     
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