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LCA Bushings: OEM, Energy Suspension, Whiteline

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by alphabravo, Oct 8, 2015.

  1. Apr 19, 2020 at 6:38 PM
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    Running Board Man

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    It should be the same as what it replaces

    I cannot confirm though but i can confirm the energy bushings are a bit if an interferance fit
     
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  2. Apr 20, 2020 at 8:46 AM
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    I'm going to order a spare Mevotech bushing off RockAuto as a sacrifice/experiment just to be safe. :sawzall:
    I'd rather burn 30-40 bucks (Canadian:canada:) to save myself from potentially ruining these $$$ LCA's

    Shipping estimates say it should arrive at the end of the week, giving me the weekend to tear it apart and try the Energy Suspension bushing.

    I'll post my findings when I have an answer!

    For reference should anyone else find themselves going the same route:

    The bushing part number I'm ordering is MS86407
    I have the Mevotech Lower Control Arms CMS86183 and CMS86184
     
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  3. Apr 27, 2020 at 9:20 AM
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    So, I'm back with a minor update!

    I did the swap on one bushing and I'm not 100% satisfied with the results...

    For reference, this is what I found when I popped the metal plate off one side of the Mevotech bushing.
    IMG_20200426_094436.jpg
    Did not realize these Mevotech bushings were partially hollow. Wondering if OEM are the same?
    Seems like a weak point by allowing flexing inside the bushing, or a great place for water and mud to be trapped and cause our infamous reputation of frozen cam-bolts?
    IMG_20200426_100254.jpg
    A bit if propane and the bushing came out easily enough.

    After removing all the rubber, I test fitted the centre sleeve with the ES bushing. Definitely not a snug fit, but I decided I'd see what happened after I squeezed the ES bushing into the Outer-sleeve.

    @Running Board Man was correct. ES Bushing was an interference fit with the Mevotech LCA. Was a bit of a fight to squeeze it in, but nothing unreasonable.

    Center sleeve felt more snug when I installed it at this point, but nothing compared to installing the ES bushing into the outer-sleeve. After putting everything back together, I have a very small amount of play/flex... :confused:

    It's not wobbly and jiggles around, but I am able to get some travel when I stick a screwdriver down the center and work it back and forth. I should also add that it's slow - if that makes sense? It takes a second or two to move from one side to the other.

    Sorry for the long post here guys.
     
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  4. Apr 27, 2020 at 9:32 AM
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    Sounds like you could use the mevotec lca and your original inner sleeve if not happy with the results

    Edit... the factory bushing is solid rubber
     
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  5. Apr 27, 2020 at 10:15 AM
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    That's IF I can salvage them, but yes I think you're right.
    Pretty certain they've rust-welded to the cam-bolts. :puke:

    Probably more trouble than it's worth and I don't like the idea of putting something rusty back into my truck.
     
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  6. Apr 27, 2020 at 9:28 PM
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    this is normal, most bushings look like this, its how they dampen, run it!
     
  7. Apr 29, 2020 at 9:56 AM
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    I got around to doing the second bushing on the same arm.

    Installing this bushing into the outer-sleeve was MUCH more of a fight. As a result, the centre-sleeve slotted in a bit more snugly in my opinion.

    I think I traced down the difference to the level of cleaning I did on both outer-sleeves.

    With the first install, I was very thorough with a wire brush attachment on a power drill. Perhaps a little too thorough!
    I was wiping away silver (metal) dust with my fingers, so I'm thinking that must have widened the diameter of the outer-sleeve juuust enough to get that little bit of wobble with the center-sleeve. Though having said that, I can't seem to get any wiggle out of the first one now. :thumbsup:

    Based on this, I'll say it looks like Mevotech LCA's are compatible with the Energy Suspension bushings.

    IMG_20200428_195530.jpg
     
  8. May 13, 2020 at 10:03 AM
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    Well boys. We did it.

    Mevotech LCA's are installed with new ES bushings and new OEM cambolts. What a F$%#ing battle.:bananadead:

    IMG_20200512_200739.jpg

    Took it for a quick test drive after putting everything back together. I think it may have actually made my ride quieter - maybe placebo, I don't know.

    Surprisingly, my driver-side cambolts weren't fused and I was able to knock them out with a hammer. Wooo!
    Passenger side was a different story...:anonymous:
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  9. May 24, 2020 at 9:15 PM
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  10. May 25, 2020 at 5:28 AM
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    I ran whitelines with Total Chaos cam tab gussets for years with lots of offroad miles, and never had an issue holding an alignment.

    I'm guessing you'll be waiting a while for Marlin to come out with those for the 1st gen...
     
  12. May 25, 2020 at 9:55 AM
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    Awk didn’t realize this was a first gen thread haha but nevertheless thanks for the insight fellas I appreciate it.
     
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