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Leaf spring question

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by CrippledOldMan, Feb 1, 2019.

  1. Feb 1, 2019 at 8:33 AM
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    CrippledOldMan

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    I looked under my tacoma to see how many leafs are on my truck. I have three long springs and one short (flat) spring. Is there anyway to identify who the manufacturer is, and where on the springs would this info be found. How many leafs are on the stock springs from toyota.

    thanks
     
  2. Feb 1, 2019 at 8:58 AM
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    Post a pic if you can.

    But the OEM leafs have 3 main leafs and an overload leaf.

    If they look like this they are either OEM or oem-like.
    [​IMG]

    Curious why it matters what brand they are. If they are worn out, you buy a whole new set, not individual leafs.
     
  3. Feb 4, 2019 at 2:22 AM
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    @jbrandt , I don't have a pic yet, but mine look very much like the pic that you posted. flat as a pancake. I've been looking at the OME complete kit. Would you suggest doing the aal with that setup. I don't need super heavy duty off road, I won't be trying to climb the side of Mt. Mitchell here in N.C.
    I'm mostly looking for better ride, with a more stock like setup, with the ability to do some off road, and fire roads. I'm hoping that this OME kit will not screw up my drivetrain. Nothing extreme for me. I'll leave that up to the younger guys.
     
  4. Feb 4, 2019 at 6:36 AM
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  5. Feb 4, 2019 at 9:37 AM
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    I've also heard that those tend to sag relatively quickly...

    If you are good with giving it a lift, the OME complete kit is probably the best bang for your buck. Completely new suspension for ~$1200 is a good deal. People are nearly universally happy with the OME suspension. If you end up lifting it 2.5", then you need to also make sure you get a diff drop as well. It's a set of 1" spacers that lower your front diff to help keep your CV joints in alignment. I don't believe the OME kit usually comes with one. They cost like $20-$40. Get one with the skid plate spacers (since the diff would get moved down far enough to hit the skid plate).

    But for the type of driving you describe you don't "need" a lift. The problem is that there aren't a lot of good quality stock height leaf springs out there. General is probably your best bet (aside from original factory or going full custom) but as I said above, I hear they tend to sag fairly quickly, same with the MOOG front (stick height) coils.

    So, if you were thinking about a lift, go for the OME kit, you'll love it.
     
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  6. Feb 4, 2019 at 1:15 PM
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    has anyone posted a pic of the OME springs after installation. I haven't found one, and was wondering do they lay flat, or is there a little curve to them. anyone know. while I'm waiting on spring, and reading all these threads, I'll have to decide just how much money!!! I really want to spend. These mods on our 1st gen Taco's can get expensive.
     
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    https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/old-man-emu-setups-on-1st-gen.141055/

    If you call up someone at Wheelers or Headstrong, or one of the other vendors, they'll make sure you get set up with the right stuff. What front springs you get (880's, 881's etc...) is dependent on if you have a winch bumper etc... (heavier bumpers/winches require stiffer springs).
     
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  8. Feb 4, 2019 at 6:46 PM
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    Following as I want the same. Might do what jbrant suggests.
     
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  9. Feb 6, 2019 at 10:47 AM
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    I contacted Downsouth and they recommended
    Emu coils, struts, shocks and Icon 3 leaf springs.
    Is there anyone that sells a hardware kit for this job? I’d like to freshen up the fasteners and bushings.
    Cheers,
    S.
     
  10. Feb 6, 2019 at 11:13 AM
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    I ordered smaller individual washers, bushings, etc. from Wheeler's.
     
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    Honestly, I get a lot of my hardware from Ace Hardware. They have a really good selection of grade 8-10 stuff.

    For the bushings, Wheelers is good, but Downsouth might have what you need, too.

    LowRangeOffRoad is good for a lot of stuff, too.
     
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  12. Feb 6, 2019 at 1:45 PM
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    None so far.
    I just replaced my leaf springs last weekend. I used the RockAuto's Husky springs part# 90173. I'll get a picture tonight and post the finished installation.
     
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    None so far.
    No more sag.
    20190206_165904.jpg 20190206_165746.jpg
     
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    Nice, it looks like new hardware, come with or were they ordered separately?
     
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    None so far.
    The springs did include the bushings is all. The rest I had to purchase separately.
     
  16. Feb 8, 2019 at 6:04 AM
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    That leaf still looks really flat.

    OP, I have oem style leafs with a wheelers AAL. It’s a bit stiffer but holds weight well.
     
  17. Jun 1, 2022 at 9:40 AM
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    i know this old but what leaf springs did you end up getting
     
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    Its normal for leaf springs on spring-over-axle trucks like ours to look flat. They looked flat when they were new off the lot. If you do an AAL or get a spring pack designed for more lift/weight then it may have more arch to it, but in general flat isn't a problem. When they start to frown that's when they're no good
     
  19. Jun 1, 2022 at 10:36 AM
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    Remains to be seen I bought the tires and wheels the rest came along
    I have seen when trucks change owners and the new owner puts a load 500# on the springs have never seen both springs broke .

    Empty trucks always ride rough want a smooth ride reduce the spring capacity but your ability to haul anything is decreased.
     
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    I have the OME kit all around and really like it. I got the 880 springs in front because I don't want too much lift. On my double cab, that came to about 1.5" of lift and it keeps the CV happy. The rear came with the Deaver AAL and it raised it by 2". A bit more than I would have liked but added some load capacity back there. I don't really load the bed with heavy cargo so it will do for now.
     

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