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Discussion in 'Off-Roading & Trails' started by 1998tacomaowner, Oct 28, 2011.

  1. Oct 28, 2011 at 10:13 PM
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    1998tacomaowner

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    i was thinking about getting a front locker prolly ARB but i have herd i will just break stuff without SAS but thats out of the question just wondering who has one and if i should worry to much thax
     
  2. Oct 28, 2011 at 10:20 PM
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    If you know when to use it and when to leave it off you will be fine
     
  3. Oct 29, 2011 at 2:00 AM
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    +1
     
  4. Oct 29, 2011 at 2:03 AM
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    lol, and Glad to see im not the only one who can't sleep
     
  5. Oct 29, 2011 at 9:36 PM
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    so what your saying is dont worry about having IFS over SAS
    and is there any way to make the IFS stronger
     
  6. Oct 29, 2011 at 9:41 PM
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    Carry a spare axle, a crowbar, and a 35mm socket, in addition to your regular compliment of tools? :p

    The nice thing about doing front and rear at the same time is you can regear at the same time while both diffs are cracked open. But yeah, it's cool to start with just the back.
     
  7. Oct 29, 2011 at 11:15 PM
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    Agree. If you havent done the back yet then for sure start with the back if you had to choose one over the other. But if you can do them at the same time then more power to you.

    You will break CVs with a front locker. But if you get an ARB and use it wisely since its selectable, you will break fewer CVs. This is the route im going since im re-gearing. Im carrying multiple spares.

    Get a rear locker and get out there and wheel for a while. It will increase your trucks capability immensely and you may come to find you have no need for a front locker. Good luck.
     
  8. Oct 30, 2011 at 4:36 AM
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    Ideally...putting forth the cash upfront and getting both the front & the rear locked and regeared at the same time is the best way to go (ARB's are the way to go).

    However....having front & rear lockers and not knowing how to use them can put you in a world of hurt if you're not careful. And - I ain't talking about mechanical breakages. Lockers can and will put you in situations you never intended in a matter of seconds.....like rolling it, or going upside down, etc.

    Just sayin......:D

    Be careful out there!

    So - in a nutshell, I would get a rear locker only and gain some experience with it.
     
  9. Oct 30, 2011 at 9:28 AM
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    Don't make anything stronger. Carry spare CV axles and learn how to replace them on the trail. The CV's are the weakest link in the IFS but they are also the cheapest and easiest to replace. If you make those stronger, the next weakest thing will break
     
  10. Oct 30, 2011 at 10:05 AM
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    yes thats true so whats the next weakest thing and how do i make it stronger
     
  11. Oct 30, 2011 at 10:27 AM
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    Stop right there.... Step away from the tacoma!!!

    Dude - How much money you got?

    It's an endless battle. YOU need to sit down and look at your own driving style and build to that. Everything can become the weak link!!! Start out small....get a feel for your driving abilities and the terrain you want to tackle and go from there.

    If you want to expand to ultimate & expensive strength....you might as well get a small loan for all the parts & labor for building something, big & strong. And even then....if you push it too hard, you can STILL break something!!!!
     
  12. Oct 30, 2011 at 10:29 AM
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    Yeah, stop and re-read what I said. Don't go chasing your tail trying to make the IFS bullet proof. Just get the locker and some spare axles and lean when to use it and when not to use it
     
  13. Oct 30, 2011 at 2:14 PM
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    the IFS on the fist gens are very strong. Even CV's are strong...I mean really, how many people so far in this thread have broken a CV?

    The only reason you need to do a SAS swap on these trucks are if you do alot of rock crawling or some super hardcore trail riding.
     
  14. Oct 30, 2011 at 3:15 PM
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    All sounds good i just need more $ and I don't do much of anything unless its in snow so the IFS sounds fine
     
  15. Oct 30, 2011 at 3:21 PM
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    I watched a guy break a CV in his 3rd gen 4runner (same as 1st gen tacoma) pulling a guy out in the sand at pismo :D
     
  16. Oct 30, 2011 at 3:30 PM
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    only time i broke a cv was hitting a ford excursion headon at 40-45ish
     
  17. Oct 30, 2011 at 4:16 PM
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    I'm reluctant to lock up front because carrying a spare CV would be very expensive for me, as they would need extended axle shafts for the long travel and those are $500/pair.
     
  18. Oct 30, 2011 at 7:25 PM
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    I disagree. The IFS on the newer tacos is pretty strong.

    I have watched CVs break just about everytime I have been wheeling, sometimes multiple CVs a day.
     
  19. Oct 30, 2011 at 7:28 PM
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    never said that the 2nd gen IFS isn't strong ;)
     
  20. Oct 30, 2011 at 8:03 PM
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    Yes, I know. I was disagreeing about the first gen IFS being strong. Its actually pretty weak, I wish it was as strong as the 2nd gens.
     
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