Long Travel BS Thread

Your a badass. I knew I read it before. Thanks. Unless it puts my shocks an extreme angle I’ll be using that to setup my front.

 

What information is this providing? I understand the concept I'm just not understanding the purpose. @snowsk8air2

This method would require you to know where the lower mount of the shock is located, no?

 

Yes you’d have to know where your lower mounts are located. Or at least try it with a few different lower mount locations. But it provides you with the location of the upper mount based on wheel travel and a lower mount location.

Supposedly it will set the shocks at the correct angle but I personally have never done it. I just remember seeing it used by people in the past.

 

I guess I've never had a problem finding the upper mount location due to other limitations. I typically work on applications where the lower mount is adjusted accordingly. That said there are other considerations when working on a truck with a bed cage or other freedoms for the upper mount.

Define "correct angle" though. The shock should function well within a range and can still be mounted at extreme angles. Obviously you don't want any kind of binding or anything of the sort. Just intrigued by the idea.

 

It's pretty easy to get close on the lower mount based on the available uptravel. this method would require you to properly cycle the suspension though.

 

If I remember correctly it should place the shock so there is the least amount of eccentric loading on it through the travel (which would cause binding). Supposed to give the smoothest shock operation. Not that other locations and angles won’t work fine, but this is supposed to optimize the smoothness of travel. It’s an older method, I haven’t ever tried it, not sure if there’s a better way now, this is just what I remember reading years ago

 

It probably also matters alot more for shocks with a pin/bushing end than a uniball end.

 

This is definitely more of a designing stuff from scratch tool to use. And always cycle the suspension. It sucks sometimes especially with leafs and having to break them down, but it’s always the right thing to do

 

This. Since with retrofitting mounts you're limited to some placement based around what's on the truck as far as the limits on hanger / holes in the bed locations.


10-15* max at full bump is generally what I heard if I'm not mistaken from @Anthony250

 

I concur with that but then you throw out cantilever setups and those numbers go out the window.

 

For my kit, shock angle needed to be perpendicular to the bell crank between the lower shock mount and pivot at full droop and the bell crank between the lower shock mount and tie rod pivot needed to be parallel with the frame at full bump to locate the top shock mounting location. Probably varies if you have other geometry.


Pretend that's 90* ^^^^

 

This is putting the shock to its most effective location with in theory zero binding through out its travel because your setting the upper mount at compressions and droop on the same plane.

if your adding custom shocks/cutting everything off like an idiot like me, might as well do it right lol

 

Ford prerunners seem more often going that way.

 

Alright someones gonna have to school me on why run it on the lca? i feel like putting a brake line closer and more exposed seems like a bad idea...

 

It really only matters to make it as safe if a routing as possible - hanging off the back of the lca isn’t probably the safest way depending on your choice of terrain but obviously whoever built that truck felt that it was good to do that. Keeping it tight where it should be tight is what I go for.

 

Off of DMZ’s Instagram. Damn, that’s a nice looking build, the links on that thing look crazy. When I was over there to pick up some brake lines and ask an opinion, Tim was talking about the parts he was manufacturing for trucks in Pakistan. I didn’t recall him mentioning a full truck.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CG82yHHB6Gc/?igshid=1v96pyg5ciksy

 

Yeah, after having it across the UCA/Spindle route I saw all the disadvantages. It’s hard to get the line to route exactly how you want and stay there.
I’m going to go across the top of the LCA, some random branch will grab it in the spot that Ford has it.

Am I missing something by running only 1 limit strap? (Other than two limit straps of course.)

 

Lower center of gravity. Duh!

 

Less stretch and also makes them hold up longer when running heavier spring rates. I’m running duals on mine

 

You can use the same clips that he’s using on the spindle and have good results too. Looking around it looks like bigger trucks and sand rails / buggies run them where you're saying.

Full sizes just have bigger parts. That truck's running 37-40" tires. One limit strap is fine for people that aren't drooping out tons.