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Maxtrac Spindle Lift for 2nd Gen Prerunners

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by markmatters, Feb 11, 2012.

  1. Jun 20, 2013 at 10:41 AM
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  2. Jun 23, 2013 at 8:31 PM
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    Get an expo pack in the rear instead. Less coil weight isn't gonna do shit for ya. Right now your front lift is the lowest it's ever gonna go with lift spindles on. Your only choice is to lift the rear to match the front
     
  3. Jun 23, 2013 at 8:36 PM
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    Yea and all that's gonna do is make your truck bottom out like crazy.
     
  4. Jun 23, 2013 at 9:35 PM
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    Well, I know you just threw those standards on...I bet you could get at least $300 for them...pick up some expos and that'll give ya at least a good 4" of lift.
     
  5. Jun 23, 2013 at 9:41 PM
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  6. Jun 23, 2013 at 9:46 PM
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    See that. I bet you could get $400 if ya help install them :). I always offer to help install shit I sell if they match my price.
     
  7. Jun 24, 2013 at 7:28 AM
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    I'd go with the 500 lb coils up front to bring it down a bit. The manufacturers use 600 lb coils for liability reasons knowing most ditch the sway bar. 600s are too stiff of a coil for a prerunner (2wd) IMO. Your front suspension is supposed to move and hitting the bumps is not an issue. It’s how hard you hit them that’s the issue. Proper valving and better bumps will fix this and is more the correct approach over a stiffer coil.

    Though I’m not sure how much it would come down up front switching the coils, maybe ½”. Another option might be a shorter coil.

    Oh and you ditch the spindles and adjust the COs to get lift, get ready for a shitty ride unless you want to be at 2” or under.

    Going with an expo pack would be crazy; those are way stiff for an unloaded bed.
     
  8. Jun 24, 2013 at 8:01 AM
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    ACtually the expos aren't that bad with an unloaded bed. I ran them for a few weeks before I got a load in there...yea they're a little stiff, but not as crazy as I expect from what everyone said here.

    Yes, once you put a load in the bed they soften up pretty nicely...but not that much...I just filled up a box full of dirt and rocks and strapped it down in the back...leaves are fine now...planning on a camper shell and a plate bumper someday...

    As for 500 lb coils up front...just remember that if you do that you're gonna have to pull your shocks off to re-valve them...or if you got the CDC's, just adjust them for waaaay stiffer. Either way, your working backwards here...short coil...less coil weight...its gonna limit your uptravel even more because you're going to be moving where the shock sits on the shaft at ride height...so really... either match the back with your current front...or lose the maxtracs and deal with pre-load.
     
  9. Jun 24, 2013 at 8:20 AM
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    I would not go to that low of a coil. The rear shocks are not giving you any lift at all. Do you still have the factory block in there?

    If you do change coils i would drop to a 600lb (you should have 650's on there now (Icon/King use 650's, Fox uses 600)) coil and that's it. Or you could look into rear shackles. I think Defined
    makes some.

    The main thing that is giving you the front lift though is the spindles, that's why i would look into addressing the issue by changing the rear.
     
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  10. Jun 24, 2013 at 8:27 AM
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    Vince wouldn't the defined shackles just lower his truck?
     
  11. Jun 24, 2013 at 8:37 AM
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    No such thing, Total Chaos makes a 3 or 3.5" one i think
     
  12. Jun 24, 2013 at 8:48 AM
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    I thought they made a lift one. My bad.

    What size tire do you have? Snap pics of the whole vehicle, as well as a fenderwell shot to see the C/O's. You could always take the spindles off, sell them, use that to buy some 700lb coils so then you wont have to have as much preload to get to that 3" mark.

    Correct!
     
  13. Jun 24, 2013 at 8:52 AM
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    Take the fiberglass off or get 35's. Or lower the truck and stay with 33's
     
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    I think the fenders are throwing if off a bit, since they are made to clear a 35". But looking at it, you may be able to just do a 1" shorter spring on there.

    Here is Tom's who has the same setup, but with Icon's and no glass

    http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/2n...s-2012-prerunner-access-cab-slow-build-3.html

    Icon uses a 13" coil. I don't know 100% but King may use a 14" coil. Your truck looks good and good ground clearance. I Would try to keep the spindles. The only thing i'm not sure off is that if it's the spindle that is getting you that high alone. You have some options though. Tom's site really level, so im thinking the shorter coil may be the way to go.
     
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    If this helps...i'm sitting with about 1 inch of lift/preload on my coils. About 5 threads more on the drivers side for the taco lean. Though today I am adding a D29XL leaf to my Dakars!
     
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    Ill give King a ring in a few min. If they are 14" springs, i would just drop to a 13", or if they are 13" drop to a 12" I would not go any less than a 600lb spring though. You look to be about 1-2" higher in the front.

    But like with Tom's truck, he has 13" 650lb springs and is sitting almost dead level with the same spindles, no glass.
     
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    In theory yes....You may even want to stick to 650lb. When on the vehicle it's a 2:1 ratio with preload. So a 1" shorter spring would tech. mean 2" lower on the vehicle. (which you can then adjust with the preload.

    Just spoke with King, They told me it's a 14" 600lb spring.

    If your okay with black coils, i think the Icon 13" 650lb coils would get you where you need. Or do a 13" King 600lb coil.

    The reason i say Icon is cause Tom's setup above is level and with the same spindle and rear as you so we know that is level. But the 13" King should work in theory as well the same way.

    In the end, your still gonna have the gap in the wheel/fender since the glass is made to fit 35's.
     
  20. Jun 24, 2013 at 11:33 AM
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    Ya, even custom length rear's don't add lift. The only thing that adds lift shock wise are coil overs or air shocks.



    And you may need to put a little pre load on it once it sags a bit. I honestly don't know since i have not seen it. In theory you should not have to, but you won't know for sure till it's on.
     
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