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Modded Suspension Benefits?

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by BmanDad, Aug 4, 2011.

  1. Aug 4, 2011 at 11:11 AM
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    BmanDad

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    What benefits would a set-up like this: front Fox 2.5 coils, aftermarket UCA, and rear 2.0 shocks, provide over the stock set-up?

    Does this set-up stress or cause excessive wear on the remaining stock suspension components (springs, sways, etc)?

    Would this setup be an improvement over stock for general off roading or just the higher speed/baja runs?
     
  2. Aug 4, 2011 at 12:57 PM
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    Thanks... I doubt I would lift the truck, maybe an inch or so, if at all... so would the UCA still be needed?

    Also, would just the addition of these coils and shocks allow for higher speed desert running? Even small jumps?!
     
  3. Aug 4, 2011 at 1:02 PM
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    pshh, you can air it out bone stock :D
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    OK, so what if someone wanted to be able to catch a little air... what would need to be done to the Taco?
     
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    To do it right, it's expensive (depending on how much air you want to catch). And you should be expecting to break parts when you air out a road oriented truck. They're not made for it, but they can be reinforced so they survive it.
     
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  10. Aug 4, 2011 at 1:48 PM
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    Install a rollcage. After that...

    Spindle gussets
    Engine mount gussets
    Alignment tab gussets
    Coil bucket gussets
    Replace your bumpstops by hydraulic bumps all around
    Good shocks and springs all around
    Deep pockets, because you will break stuff.

    ...and that's not even touching upon the long travel options.
     
  11. Aug 4, 2011 at 1:49 PM
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    Yeah, that last question was off the cuff... I'd not jump a truck... just curiosity is all (I've gotten over the speed/adrenaline phase of my life).

    So, basically, for better all around on and off road performance, even a slight lift, all one would need are the Fox 2.5 in front and 2.0 in the rear?
     
  12. Aug 4, 2011 at 1:52 PM
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    ^ Sound advice. Call Downsouth Motorsports for the best service and pricing.
     
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    Def a good start :cool: I got billys and I like em... a lot smoother than stock for sure
     
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    Yeah, they're not too far from me... I haven't heard a bad thing about those folks... odd... very, very odd...

    I say that because I've NEVER heard of a vendor that EVERYONE liked... you all getting kickbacks or what?! LOL

    *As for the 5100's... what makes them better than stock, and how do they compare to the Fox?

    **Once again, forgive my ignorance as I'm basically in 4x4/offroading preschool and you all are the teachers.
     
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    Good grief... no thanks, I'll pass! :eek:
     
  16. Aug 4, 2011 at 2:18 PM
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    You learn quick! The rest of us lean more towards the derpy side of the scale. :eek:

    If I remember correctly, the 5100s are digressive valved shocks, meaning they soften on hard hits. It's great for on-road handling and a smooth ride.

    The Fox shocks are progressive valved, so they get stiffer on hard hits. It's good when landing from those big jumps. :cool:

    The 2.5" Fox reservoir shocks hold a lot more shock oil than the 5100s so they'll run cooler and be more resistant to shock fade in hard, fast conditions. On an otherwise stock truck, you'll likely break something or lose your nerve before the Bilsteins lose dampening, so how much shock you need is a judgement call.

    If you want digressive valving on a 2.5" shock, look into Icon Vehicle Dynamics. They're pricey but they're good.

    Best bang for the buck for a mostly on-road vehicle doing some light off-roading is usually the 5100s.

    As for DSM's reputation, I know it's weird but they really are that good. :)
     
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    Thanks to you both.

    At one time, I didn't learn quick... LMAO! But after a catastrophic failure here and there on my car... I kinda get what I should and shouldn't do now! LOL Oh, and my wife's shoe is still stuck half-way in my but crack...

    I don't necessarily think I'd hammer the truck, but I like the "peace of mind" aspect of "overkill". Knowing I'd likely never push the 5100's to failure, makes me think those are the right choice... but... I MAY choose something more bullet proof (Fox) for an extra wide birth. Time (and DSM) will tell.

    As for DSM... I'll take everyone's word for it, but I'll have to see for myself. They do installs too? Like I said, they're not too far from me, so I'll check them out when the time's right.
     
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    i believe they do do installs, but its fairly easy to do on your own, and on top of what mjp2 said about stuff needed to jump like that, your looking at a lt kit for the front (2500) tripple bypasses (2000)ish and coil overs (1000)ish then the rear you can get a kit for 1600 for your truck believe, but you would want to be linked for that. its really expensive, and mjp2 has it all on his truck haha
     
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