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Modifed 5th gen 4 runner calipers for 1st gen tacomas (14wa)

Discussion in '1st Gen Tacoma Parts Marketplace (1995-2004)' started by Running Board Man, May 26, 2022.

  1. May 26, 2022 at 4:54 PM
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    Running Board Man

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    $400 is the price for the product, with shipping, and insurance, via usps

    You're going to need 17 inch wheels to clear the calipers

    You can retain the original brake line setup but you will need a shorter banjo bolt or cut the original one down than fix the threads with a file... not a big deal

    I only have 4 pairs, dm for additional questions or inquiries

    You will need to supply your own pads and rotors (meant for a 2012 toyota 4 runner) to complete the upgrade

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  2. May 26, 2022 at 4:56 PM
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    That’s awesome!!
     
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    Interesting - feel free to sidebar via pm or direct me to a thread somewhere, but are these better than the Tunny calipers that everyone has been running for years?
     
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  4. May 26, 2022 at 4:58 PM
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    Larger these are

    The ones that have been done for years are 13wl calipers

    I can get some photos comparing the 14wa caliper vs the 13wl caliper but don't have the 14wa rotors or pads on hand right now

    The 14wa rotor is larger in diameter and significantly thicker than the 13wl
     
  5. May 26, 2022 at 4:59 PM
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    Well hot damn! Nice man. Thanks for the cliff notes.
     
  6. May 26, 2022 at 5:00 PM
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    The 13wl fits under 16s the 14wa require 17s
     
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    13wl left, 14wa right

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    13wl front, 14wa back
     
  8. May 26, 2022 at 11:39 PM
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    Well that's fascinating, good find. I think this is the first I've seen of another big brake upgrade other than the 13WL's.
     
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    It’s a thing pioneered by the tundra/sequoia guys. Since the brake system is the same as a 1st gen taco it seems logical to see the swap on these too at some point. That being said, 17” wheels are a must.
     
  10. May 27, 2022 at 12:08 AM
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    I’m no brake genius, so can someone explain to me if this is better than the tundra brake upgrade and if so, why? Thanks
     
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    What was modified? curious they bolt up to 2nd gens without changes. Did you need to modify the mounts? I’m not as familiar with the first gen setup.
     
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    Dint come at me with pitchforks and torches it they dont

    But they should bolt up to 2nd gens no probleno
     
  13. May 27, 2022 at 8:18 AM
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    The rotors have more ventilation so they shed heat faster, great for towing, bigger tires, stopping downhill... or a combination

    The caliper pistons are larger so a greater area of the pad is receiving clamping force

    That being said the ratio of pedal travel and brake force is technically skewed but I did the swap on my tundra whose booster and master are meant for 13wls and I notice no problem
     
  14. May 27, 2022 at 9:12 AM
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    This may help,

    13WL - 2003-2006 Tundra | 2002-2007 Sequoia

    Caliper Manufacture - Sumitomo | Advics
    Rotor Manufacture - Advics
    Pad Manufacture - Advics
    Caliper Size - 11-5/8" Inch
    Rotor Size - 318.7mm
    Rotor Thickness - 28mm
    Rotor Weight - 20.48 lbs
    Brake Pad Size -
    Piston Size - 45mm
    Wheel Size - 16"- 17"

    14WA - 2010-2015 4Runner | 2010-Present GX460

    Caliper Manufacture - Advics
    Rotor Manufacture - Advics
    Pad Manufacture - Advics
    Caliper Size - ???
    Rotor Size - 338mm
    Rotor Thickness - 31.8mm
    Rotor Weight - 21.7 lbs
    Brake Pad Size -
    Piston Size - 48mm
    Wheel Size - 17"

    14WB - Utilizes the exact same specs as the 14WA with the exception of 14mm mounting bolt. You can sleeve your 12mm mounting bolts with 2mm sleeves and have the same. However, if you start sourcing or calling around and find a GX or 4Runner 15-present, be careful since there was a model break in 2015.
     
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    I'm really interested but I'm not sure if it is worth the upgrade for me since I already have the 13wl. Has anyone here went from the 13wl to the 14wa and would like to talk about their experience?
     
  17. May 27, 2022 at 2:31 PM
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    the piston plus the rotor differences are pretty significant. Maybe somebody has made the switch but I think a double baffle booster would help as well.
     
  18. May 27, 2022 at 2:57 PM
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    @zippsub so I should upgrade the brake booster as well?
     
  19. May 27, 2022 at 3:04 PM
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    I wouldn’t say it is mandatory and you should probably also upgrade the master cylinder while you are there. It would be essential if you were converting the rear to disc because of the extra fluid movement. However, a tundra/sequoia booster and master is easy to source and would compliment these well since that is what they come on stock.
     
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    its hit or miss in the tundras if you end up with a soft pedal or not. most people end up with a decent upgrade.

    tundra uses the same master and booster as the newer 1st gen tacomas. (unless its got VSC) some people swap in the T100 booster and master though. early 1st gen tacos thats really easy to do with the 4 bolt master already on those.
     
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