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Motive Pressure Bleeder vs Speed Bleeders

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by mikalcarbine, Oct 22, 2019.

  1. Oct 22, 2019 at 12:08 PM
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    About to flush my system but I'm kind of torn with which direction to go. I maintain 3 vehicles so getting the Motive bleeder seems to make more sense for me and I'm really looking for a 1 man bleeder setup. Can anyone confirm that this will work with the TRD OR master cylinder? I've read the universal adapter is needed but how does one successfully "chain" the adapter around the big MC?
     
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  2. Oct 22, 2019 at 12:16 PM
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    Speed bleeders work well. Basic.
     
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  3. Oct 23, 2019 at 9:49 AM
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    Anyone who owns a motive bleeder have any feedback?
     
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  4. Oct 23, 2019 at 9:56 AM
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  5. Oct 23, 2019 at 10:00 AM
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    I don't have one yet but plan to buy it soon. I have read the chains work poorly and people prefer to use a large c clamp instead of the chains
     
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    OP. are you an 09+ TRD OR 4x4 (that is do you have an electric boosted master cylinder?)

    If so, dont bother with any sort of speed bleeders, you have an electric pump that will continuously pump brake fluid for you. Simply get a piece of wood/pipe/prosthetic leg to stick between the driver seat and the brake pedal, slide the seat forward to depress the brake pedal a decent amount. Turn the truck to ON (engine does not need to be running), then go to whatever wheel you are trying to bleed and crack the bleeder and watch the brake fluid spew out.... just make sure to watch the reservoir level!
     
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  7. Oct 23, 2019 at 11:07 AM
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    Amazon has the Toyota reservoir cap for the Motive product. It's $50 but worth it.
     
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  8. Oct 23, 2019 at 11:26 AM
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    I believe it’s a Power Probe BA10. I have it, expensive as chit but works perfectly
     
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    Does this method auto-bleed both front brakes as well? All 5th Gen 4Runners use this same system and the doc in the 2010 4R FSM suggests the auto-bleed is for the rear brakes.
     
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    all 4 corners!
     
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    I think the biggest issue i see with any of the "speed bleeders" that replace the nipples or use the nipple itself is that air gets pulled in via the threads of the bleeder as those are not meant to seal air. Teflon tape helps but gets chewed up quick via brake fluid.

    But 13 bucks is WAY better than other options.
     
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    Thanks - good idea. For those who want to see it in use - see YT video below - man doing brake work - but bleeder tool usage starts at about 17:17

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A20REqK4gsI
     
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    I'm glad I found this - I was about to buy some speed bleeders for my truck. I just need to have someone continuously feed brake fluid into the reservoir while I'm at each wheel.

    The 2nd gen doesn't have a load proportioning valve at the rear axle or anything, correct? On my 1st gen, there were 5 bleeders (1 on each wheel and 1 on the load proportioning valve above the driver side of the rear axle on the frame.
     
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  16. Mar 3, 2021 at 1:17 PM
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    Correct. no porportioning valve on the second gen.

    FYI the electric pump will help you with the rears, the fronts you still need to do it the manual way. I like to hold the pedal down with a stick wedged between the seat and pedal. Then use some channel locks to squish the pistons back into the caliper to push lots of fluid out the bleeder (making sure to close the bleeder before releasing) then you can pump the pedal slowly a few times to get fresh fluid back into the pistons.
     
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  17. Mar 3, 2021 at 1:40 PM
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    It’s going to be fun with the StopTech 6-piston calipers with two bleeders on each caliper...
     
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  18. Mar 3, 2021 at 1:42 PM
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    I have the Motive power bleeder with the Power Probe BA10 cap and this setup works really well. Pressurize to 10 PSI then open the bleeder valve.

    I don't trust the Speedbleeders because they leak on the threads so you will pull air back into your system.
     
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  19. Mar 15, 2021 at 5:53 PM
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    How did you connect the BA10 with the Motive unit? Did you use the QD?
     
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  20. Mar 15, 2021 at 6:48 PM
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    I bought this a couple years ago. It worked good for a little while. Around the 5th use it stopped working.
     
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